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How do you count a dead person who’s apartment building was welded shut [1]. I doubt these deaths were counted, nsfw/graphic [2]. Just doing basic research wi

How do you count a dead person who’s apartment building was welded shut [1]. I doubt these deaths were counted, nsfw/graphic [2]. Just doing basic research will tell you the Chinese CCP numbers are not accurate. [1] https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status/1226180829837025281 https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status/1226180829837025281 (Nsfl/ graphic) https://twitter.com/FinnaganMarina/status/1224761763994001415 https://twitter.com/FinnaganMarina/status/122476176399400141...

hef19898 7y ago
Again, no reliable primary sources. Twitter? Seriously?
- cobookman 7y ago
  Western scientific entities aren’t allowed in China to study or collect data (to my knowledge). WHO/CDC/John Hopkins...etc are making analysis on CCP provided numbers. with the CCP numbers historically have not been accurate, with CCP trying to save face. So what primary source would you recommend?
  - hef19898 7y ago
    The ones that make the most sense. In that case, again, the WHO. Why? Because a lot is known about Corona viruses in general. And that one was analysed a lot as well. The WHO is looking at all numbers, not just the ones from China. And apparently these numbers do make sense based on everything we know so far. And these numbers also do ad up, the Chinese ones also seem to make sense in the international context. Now, I am no expert. But when experts in field are indirectly, in the case of China, and directly verify numbers, and these numbers do make sense based on models and expectations, I go with the experts. And by all respect, these experts are not on Twitter and YouTube. Because all these. Numbers on YouTube and Twitter, all these videos, are impossible to confirm. Impossible to put them in the proper context, location and time vise. And impossible to verify. Add to that the stress and fear of people on the ground producing these videos, and the ignorance of Youtubers not being on the ground, and you get an unreliable, uninformed mess.

hef19898 7y ago

Again, no reliable primary sources. Twitter? Seriously?

cobookman 7y ago
Western scientific entities aren’t allowed in China to study or collect data (to my knowledge). WHO/CDC/John Hopkins...etc are making analysis on CCP provided numbers. with the CCP numbers historically have not been accurate, with CCP trying to save face. So what primary source would you recommend?
- hef19898 7y ago
  The ones that make the most sense. In that case, again, the WHO. Why? Because a lot is known about Corona viruses in general. And that one was analysed a lot as well. The WHO is looking at all numbers, not just the ones from China. And apparently these numbers do make sense based on everything we know so far. And these numbers also do ad up, the Chinese ones also seem to make sense in the international context. Now, I am no expert. But when experts in field are indirectly, in the case of China, and directly verify numbers, and these numbers do make sense based on models and expectations, I go with the experts. And by all respect, these experts are not on Twitter and YouTube. Because all these. Numbers on YouTube and Twitter, all these videos, are impossible to confirm. Impossible to put them in the proper context, location and time vise. And impossible to verify. Add to that the stress and fear of people on the ground producing these videos, and the ignorance of Youtubers not being on the ground, and you get an unreliable, uninformed mess.