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Did You check Cliqz already? Independent search index: https://beta.cliqz.com/ https://beta.cliqz.com/ There is a lot of technical details about how it’s built

by pythux 7y ago

Did You check Cliqz already? Independent search index: https://beta.cliqz.com/ https://beta.cliqz.com/ There is a lot of technical details about how it’s built on the tech blog: https://0x65.dev/ https://0x65.dev/ (Disclaimer: I work at Cliqz)

pmontra 7y ago
I've been using your service as my main search engine on desktop and phone for more than one month (I made an xml file to load it as search engine.) It's okish but not very good at dealing with misspelling, with news and with images. Sometimes I touch the Google button at the end of the page to find what I'm looking for. I hope you keep track of the keywords that go to Google and use them to improve your index. Anyway, it's a good service, thank you.
- __ka 7y ago
  Hey, thanks for using Cliqz. We're working hard on improvements for each one of the things you mentioned (in that order as well) - so things will definitely get much smoother over the next couple of months.
busymom0 7y ago
Maybe unrelated but what are the server costs and hardware used etc for such a thing?
jefftk 7y ago
I looked at Cliqz a few months ago, and the crawl didn't seem competitive with Google or Bing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676600
- jhoechtl 7y ago
  You mean they are not as competitive as a billion dollar company 20 years in business?
  - jefftk 7y ago
    My grandparent was saying "Google, Bing, and (at lower quality) Yandex are the only viable English-language search indices right now", and my parent was asking whether Cliqz counted. I think the GP is correct and Cliqz doesn't.
    - __ka 7y ago
      Hey, I am working on Cliqz Search [0] and would be very thankful if you point me to quality issues. I use it daily myself (in English) and will make sure those issues are addressed. [0] https://beta.cliqz.com/ https://beta.cliqz.com/
      - jefftk 7y ago
        If you click through my link above (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676600) my process went like: 1. Search for a blog I follow 2. Look at the snippet for the blog's homepage 3. Figure out how long ago the page must have been crawled to get such an old snippet I only tried a few, but they were months to years out of date.
jhoechtl 7y ago
This is absolutely fantastic! A REAL alternative not just a search collector like ddg which are endorsed by Google or Bing as the traffic and ad opportunities remain unafected.

by pythux 7y ago

pmontra 7y ago

I've been using your service as my main search engine on desktop and phone for more than one month (I made an xml file to load it as search engine.) It's okish but not very good at dealing with misspelling, with news and with images. Sometimes I touch the Google button at the end of the page to find what I'm looking for. I hope you keep track of the keywords that go to Google and use them to improve your index. Anyway, it's a good service, thank you.

__ka 7y ago
Hey, thanks for using Cliqz. We're working hard on improvements for each one of the things you mentioned (in that order as well) - so things will definitely get much smoother over the next couple of months.

busymom0 7y ago

Maybe unrelated but what are the server costs and hardware used etc for such a thing?

jefftk 7y ago

I looked at Cliqz a few months ago, and the crawl didn't seem competitive with Google or Bing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676600

jhoechtl 7y ago
You mean they are not as competitive as a billion dollar company 20 years in business?
- jefftk 7y ago
  My grandparent was saying "Google, Bing, and (at lower quality) Yandex are the only viable English-language search indices right now", and my parent was asking whether Cliqz counted. I think the GP is correct and Cliqz doesn't.
  - __ka 7y ago
    Hey, I am working on Cliqz Search [0] and would be very thankful if you point me to quality issues. I use it daily myself (in English) and will make sure those issues are addressed. [0] https://beta.cliqz.com/ https://beta.cliqz.com/
    - jefftk 7y ago
      If you click through my link above (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676600) my process went like: 1. Search for a blog I follow 2. Look at the snippet for the blog's homepage 3. Figure out how long ago the page must have been crawled to get such an old snippet I only tried a few, but they were months to years out of date.

jhoechtl 7y ago

This is absolutely fantastic! A REAL alternative not just a search collector like ddg which are endorsed by Google or Bing as the traffic and ad opportunities remain unafected.