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> In the last four years they have included countries whose human rights records have been criticised such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the UAE, Oman, Qatar and Hong

> In the last four years they have included countries whose human rights records have been criticised such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the UAE, Oman, Qatar and Hong Kong. A perfect party to sell stuff for those whose other hand is operating a bone saw

DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
fwiw, using the prominent example of DarkMatter they're staffed mainly by Europeans, Americans, Indians. Nobody critics these people who voluntarily go there to work and instead we all pretend "Technology is Neutral".
- ryanlol 7y ago
  Really?
  - DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
    well yes. quickest way to verify my claim is to check LinkedIn for who works at DarkMatter: https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?facetCurrentCompany=%5B%226395240%22%5D https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?facetCurrent... This is a good read too: https://theintercept.com/2016/10/24/darkmatter-united-arab-emirates-spies-for-hire/ https://theintercept.com/2016/10/24/darkmatter-united-arab-e... Since they started they have become more careful about compartmentalization and making efforts to conceil their activities by shell'ing out (pun intended) by using new companies/structures for sensitive ops that can effect how they are perceived on the market. As an American who works there once told me: "we have a good thing going here." (this was just a few weeks after this happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19308430 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19308430) I don't want to sound snarky but I would have assumed from your many excellent / on-point comments here over the years that you're well read and informed on them ;) Edit: it's very hard to say no to 0 income tax.
    - ryanlol 7y ago
      I know who works at DarkMatter, it’s this part I was picking up on: >Nobody critics these people who voluntarily go there to work and instead we all pretend "Technology is Neutral". This really doesn’t match my experiences. Maybe we hang out in rather different circles though? OTOH, unsurprisingly the people making their living in the state-sponsored offsec space aren’t going to complain about DarkMatter & co.

DyslexicAtheist 7y ago

fwiw, using the prominent example of DarkMatter they're staffed mainly by Europeans, Americans, Indians. Nobody critics these people who voluntarily go there to work and instead we all pretend "Technology is Neutral".

ryanlol 7y ago
Really?
- DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
  well yes. quickest way to verify my claim is to check LinkedIn for who works at DarkMatter: https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?facetCurrentCompany=%5B%226395240%22%5D https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?facetCurrent... This is a good read too: https://theintercept.com/2016/10/24/darkmatter-united-arab-emirates-spies-for-hire/ https://theintercept.com/2016/10/24/darkmatter-united-arab-e... Since they started they have become more careful about compartmentalization and making efforts to conceil their activities by shell'ing out (pun intended) by using new companies/structures for sensitive ops that can effect how they are perceived on the market. As an American who works there once told me: "we have a good thing going here." (this was just a few weeks after this happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19308430 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19308430) I don't want to sound snarky but I would have assumed from your many excellent / on-point comments here over the years that you're well read and informed on them ;) Edit: it's very hard to say no to 0 income tax.
  - ryanlol 7y ago
    I know who works at DarkMatter, it’s this part I was picking up on: >Nobody critics these people who voluntarily go there to work and instead we all pretend "Technology is Neutral". This really doesn’t match my experiences. Maybe we hang out in rather different circles though? OTOH, unsurprisingly the people making their living in the state-sponsored offsec space aren’t going to complain about DarkMatter & co.