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Eh, by that logic "murder" is simply who the government says you're not allowed to kill. In the absence of all other criteria, that would be true, but theories
by Matticus_Rex 7y ago
Eh, by that logic "murder" is simply who the government says you're not allowed to kill. In the absence of all other criteria, that would be true, but theories of rights still exist in the absence of laws.
- baq 7y agoNatural law is the same thing as natural products. Impossible to define at best. Law needs enforcement to be law, otherwise it’s just words.
- Matticus_Rex 7y agoSo if the government collapses, is murder still murder, or do we have to use different words? I posit that something need not be objectively defined to be meaningful. We have the intersubjective for that.
- dragonwriter 7y ago> theories of rights still exist in the absence of laws. Sure, everyone had their own theory of rights. And if by people acting to defend their property you mean “people will fight to secure access to those things to which their own personal theory of rights holds them to be entitled”, well, you’ll notice that's exactly what I described, but not at all what people mean when discussing “property” normally.
- antepodius 7y agoSure. But there is such a thing as a group of people with similar theories of right, or negotiated theories of rights. An example might be a not-entirely-tyrannical tribe. Our current systen descends from such things.