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You're telling me to accept the status quo and be fine with it. That's telling me how to behave. The company is just an entity that needs to follow the set of
by aaomidi 7y ago
You're telling me to accept the status quo and be fine with it.
That's telling me how to behave. The company is just an entity that needs to follow the set of guidelines set by people living in that society.
- privateSFacct 7y agoPlease - quit your overpaid tech job and actually work to change the status quo. No one is saying you have to accept the status quo. But your lectures while driving past the homeless in a $100K tesla on your way to swank vacations are tiresome - particularly as you build that money off the status quo you are so eager to say is terrible.
- aaomidi 7y agoThere's two ways to change the current system: 1. Work in the current system and try to slowly impact it and change how it behaves. 2. Start a violent revolution and start a civil war which will end in millions dead. Which one do you prefer I do? I also HAVE to participate in this system if I want to live. That's one of the reasons I want to change the system. My participation in this system isn't consensual.
- CydeWeys 7y ago> Please - quit your overpaid tech job and actually work to change the status quo. No one is saying you have to accept the status quo. False dichotomy. You don't need to quit your job to work to change the status quo. Indeed, you can often effect change much better from inside an important organization than from outside it.
- privateSFacct 7y agoPlease - cash your big checks built on the back of misery and then complain to the company about their violent attacks on your "physical security". You don't need to change your job - but if you are getting paid very well to do a job, then posting long internet postings about how terrible it is to work at an "important organization" risks getting you some eye-rolls.
- CydeWeys 7y agoYou're attacking a strawman. The people trying to effect change aren't merely complaining online. There has been substantial real organizing afoot.
- Doctor_Fegg 7y agoUnless you're actually doxxing the parent commenter, you're assuming a lot there. I have no doubt that plenty of HN contributors are actively working to change the status quo. As for $100k Teslas, personally I have no intention of ever buying a car again, let alone a $100k one.
- skynetv2 7y agoI think you made their point yourself Go change the guidelines. No need to tell anyone anything at that point.
- aaomidi 7y agoAnd that's what posts like this are slowly doing. Changing public opinion towards our way of life.
- chrshawkes 7y agoAre you sure about that?
- scardycat 7y agoAnd we finally make it. Go change the guidelines. No need to tell anyone anything at that point.
- murgindrag 7y ago> The company is just an entity that needs to follow the set of guidelines set by people living in that society. Those guidelines are the laws. We elect congress and a president who passes laws, and what those are comes back to us. Within those laws, we have capitalism. If company A goes beyond that, and company B doesn't, guess who survives? Pressuring an employer to act outside of those bounds isn't helpful. What is helpful is realigning incentive structures at a system level. Radical proposals -- like eliminating NDAs, mandating open source for firmware, right-to-repair, and so on -- feel oppressive when one looks through the lens of private right to contract. When one looks at a systemic level, they result in much greater freedom for everyone. Most executives would like to be good, but they're between a rock and a hard place, and walk a thin line. Laws are what determine where that line is.