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I sort of guessed that it's definitely an Israeli company. Otherwise which country and it's Companies get every legal permission after breaking every possible l

I sort of guessed that it's definitely an Israeli company. Otherwise which country and it's Companies get every legal permission after breaking every possible law?

crispinb 7y ago
Er just about every nation, ever? As nations develop legal & regulatory systems, the means of corruption changes, but the corruption stays. In India companies directly pay politicians to skirt regulations. Here in Australia that's rarer, but the corporations via lobbyists simply write the regulations that they then largely conform to. Same deal. Different means.
- celticninja 7y ago
  I guess GP means state sanctioned support. But I don't agree that this is an Israeli only thing, Hacking Team are Italian and do the same thing.
  - crispinb 7y ago
    Sure - as it happens my nation (Australia) has far fewer of the kind of entanglements that prompt this particular activity, compared to Israel. But you can entirely sure that if we did, we'd allow tech spying lobbyists to write the necessary laws to cover them.
    - somesortofsystm 7y ago
      Australia is about 100x better at hiding its entanglements than Israel, which has had an overt show of force policy for decades. Australia, on the other hand, has so many layers and levels of secrecy around its state-run operations of this nature, that its impossible, truly, to really ever know. Australia leads the way when it comes to repressing free speech and the public right of knowledge over what is being done in their name by the ADF, and has even taught Israel a few things or two about keeping its internal populations at heel when something nasty inevitably leaks out. And then there is that whole secret court, secret prison, secret prisoner thing.
rurban 7y ago
You've also got Germany (FinFisher), Italy (Hacking Group), and the USA for sure. Probably more.
DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
https://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page https://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page
Udik 7y ago
Not to mention that the UK is "extremely friendly" to Israel. Johnson after winning the elections gave a ministry to Priti Patel, who had been removed from a previous May government for having secret meetings with Israeli officials during her tenure. One of Johnson's first acts was to propose a law to ban BDS, the movement promoting boycotting and sanctioning Israel.

I sort of guessed that it's definitely an Israeli company. Otherwise which country and it's Companies get every legal permission after breaking every possible law?

crispinb 7y ago

Er just about every nation, ever? As nations develop legal & regulatory systems, the means of corruption changes, but the corruption stays. In India companies directly pay politicians to skirt regulations. Here in Australia that's rarer, but the corporations via lobbyists simply write the regulations that they then largely conform to. Same deal. Different means.

celticninja 7y ago
I guess GP means state sanctioned support. But I don't agree that this is an Israeli only thing, Hacking Team are Italian and do the same thing.
- crispinb 7y ago
  Sure - as it happens my nation (Australia) has far fewer of the kind of entanglements that prompt this particular activity, compared to Israel. But you can entirely sure that if we did, we'd allow tech spying lobbyists to write the necessary laws to cover them.
  - somesortofsystm 7y ago
    Australia is about 100x better at hiding its entanglements than Israel, which has had an overt show of force policy for decades. Australia, on the other hand, has so many layers and levels of secrecy around its state-run operations of this nature, that its impossible, truly, to really ever know. Australia leads the way when it comes to repressing free speech and the public right of knowledge over what is being done in their name by the ADF, and has even taught Israel a few things or two about keeping its internal populations at heel when something nasty inevitably leaks out. And then there is that whole secret court, secret prison, secret prisoner thing.

rurban 7y ago

You've also got Germany (FinFisher), Italy (Hacking Group), and the USA for sure. Probably more.

DyslexicAtheist 7y ago

https://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page https://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page

Udik 7y ago

Not to mention that the UK is "extremely friendly" to Israel. Johnson after winning the elections gave a ministry to Priti Patel, who had been removed from a previous May government for having secret meetings with Israeli officials during her tenure. One of Johnson's first acts was to propose a law to ban BDS, the movement promoting boycotting and sanctioning Israel.