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I find it really depressing that as I write this comment, the other top-most comments are complaining about the article's UX. Meanwhile we are radically alteri

I find it really depressing that as I write this comment, the other top-most comments are complaining about the article's UX. Meanwhile we are radically altering the natural environment. As the TFA spells out, so superbly.

criley2 7y ago
Well, this is HackerNews, started by a technology company accelerator focused largely on web applications, for which UX is a top line discussion point. The point being, the takes here are pretty on-brand.
- dang 7y ago
  No, Hacker News is for stories that are intellectually interesting. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
  - criley2 7y ago
    Stating what it is for does not change the audience who is here, what they are interested in, and ultimately how they found it and why. Not as many climatology folks here as tech folks. Let's not be obtuse.
- abootstrapper 7y ago
  I believe the hope is the smart technically minded people on HN might have some insight or way to innovate solutions to at least mitigate climate change. Unfortunately, the best we can come up with this thread are UX critiques. I think it just illustrates how daunting of a problem climate change really is.
  - creaghpatr 7y ago
    Both climate change and UX critiques happen in-depth every day on HN there is no shortage of either.
smabie 7y ago
It’s not an article, it’s a slideshow with pictures. Who actually wants to consume information like this?
- legitster 7y ago
  A majority of humans.
  - prostheticvamp 7y ago
    True. That’s why powerpoints are so popular. I never stop hearing people rave about watching slideshows. They’re all like, damn, I’d love to get this information in slideshow format.
    - asdasdasdasdwd 7y ago
      On the other hand give them a 10 page report and they'll put it down and never read it.
      - s1artibartfast 7y ago
        Ballpark numbers from google: recommended words per slide: 20 recommended time per slide: 2 minutes Average academic words per page: 600 nobody is sitting through a 10 hour ppt deck either.
    - crmrc114 7y ago
      Thanks for that, now cleaning coffee off my monitor. Good laugh. Also: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/23/what-jeff-bezos-learned-from-requiring-6-page-memos-at-amazon.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/23/what-jeff-bezos-learned-from...
    - legitster 7y ago
      I mean, what is Instagram, Tinder, Facebook, etc other than a series of slides?
- floatrock 7y ago
dang 7y ago
This is a standard phenomenon in discussion forums. The fix is to post something on-topic, without referencing the off-topicness. If you post by complaining about what's off topic, that will then get upvoted even more, turning the thread into second-order meta off-topicness. See also https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22contrarian%20dynamic%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... Moderation can help, because once we see it happening in a thread, we downweight the off-topic subthreads. But ultimately the only fix for bad discussion is good discussion, and discussion about bad discussion (even about how much you dislike it) is bad discussion.

criley2 7y ago

Well, this is HackerNews, started by a technology company accelerator focused largely on web applications, for which UX is a top line discussion point. The point being, the takes here are pretty on-brand.

dang 7y ago
No, Hacker News is for stories that are intellectually interesting. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- criley2 7y ago
  Stating what it is for does not change the audience who is here, what they are interested in, and ultimately how they found it and why. Not as many climatology folks here as tech folks. Let's not be obtuse.
abootstrapper 7y ago
I believe the hope is the smart technically minded people on HN might have some insight or way to innovate solutions to at least mitigate climate change. Unfortunately, the best we can come up with this thread are UX critiques. I think it just illustrates how daunting of a problem climate change really is.
- creaghpatr 7y ago
  Both climate change and UX critiques happen in-depth every day on HN there is no shortage of either.

smabie 7y ago

It’s not an article, it’s a slideshow with pictures. Who actually wants to consume information like this?

legitster 7y ago
A majority of humans.
- prostheticvamp 7y ago
  True. That’s why powerpoints are so popular. I never stop hearing people rave about watching slideshows. They’re all like, damn, I’d love to get this information in slideshow format.
  - asdasdasdasdwd 7y ago
    On the other hand give them a 10 page report and they'll put it down and never read it.
    - s1artibartfast 7y ago
      Ballpark numbers from google: recommended words per slide: 20 recommended time per slide: 2 minutes Average academic words per page: 600 nobody is sitting through a 10 hour ppt deck either.
  - crmrc114 7y ago
    Thanks for that, now cleaning coffee off my monitor. Good laugh. Also: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/23/what-jeff-bezos-learned-from-requiring-6-page-memos-at-amazon.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/23/what-jeff-bezos-learned-from...
  - legitster 7y ago
    I mean, what is Instagram, Tinder, Facebook, etc other than a series of slides?
floatrock 7y ago

dang 7y ago

This is a standard phenomenon in discussion forums. The fix is to post something on-topic, without referencing the off-topicness. If you post by complaining about what's off topic, that will then get upvoted even more, turning the thread into second-order meta off-topicness. See also https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22contrarian%20dynamic%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... Moderation can help, because once we see it happening in a thread, we downweight the off-topic subthreads. But ultimately the only fix for bad discussion is good discussion, and discussion about bad discussion (even about how much you dislike it) is bad discussion.