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If they would just come to peace with removing some parking, they could convert slow bus lines to fast ones through protected lanes, signal priority, and other

If they would just come to peace with removing some parking, they could convert slow bus lines to fast ones through protected lanes, signal priority, and other cheap measures.

dhduwnsjsj 7y ago
Unlikely anytime soon, California transit development is held back by the hippies and soccer moms clamoring for green everything. My city took away a ton of parking from a main road only to add dedicated, environmentally friendly, bike lanes. Nevermind that four cyclists an hour use the lanes tops or that it could have just as easily been a dedicated bus lane and done some actual good for people with jobs. But this way we're encouraging people to, like, take care of themselves man!
- duxup 7y ago
  Generally in my experience the folks pushing green options (this is admittedly a large group) tend to be fans of busses...
  - montagg 7y ago
    I’m on a neighborhood council in LA, and this is not consistently the case. You often see this flip when it comes to supporting denser development, especially where it intersects with removing single family homes or rent controlled apartments. The willingness to remove parking to get some other benefit for the community evaporates. They’re making tradeoffs that make internal sense, but it does mean you don’t just see soccer moms saying no to removing available parking. It’s sometimes hippies vs urban planners.
    - duxup 7y ago
      I feel like denser housing is always a wildcard as far as any of the folks interested goes. Bussing much less so.
      - bluGill 7y ago
        Fortunately transit doesn't need density nearly as much as long straight lines to run on. If you can just convince your local council put in long through streets every half mile transit can work well in low densities. The much hated cul-de-sacs is fine so long as there are direct walking paths to the through streets so nobody is more than quarter mile from both an easy-west and north-south street with transit. (Note, in metric countries, go with 800 meters between through streets for 400 meters to a through street - close enough)
      - Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
        In Portland, Oregon, the hippies complain about single-family homes being torn down to make apartments/high-rises while simultaneously complaining about urban sprawl. They haven't grasped the concept that you have to accept either growing upwards, laterally, or both. You can't have neither.
- psychometry 7y ago
  Bike lanes are good. The easier and safer it is for people to bike, the more bikers there will be. It takes time and additional infrastructure to make it worthwhile.

If they would just come to peace with removing some parking, they could convert slow bus lines to fast ones through protected lanes, signal priority, and other cheap measures.

dhduwnsjsj 7y ago

Unlikely anytime soon, California transit development is held back by the hippies and soccer moms clamoring for green everything. My city took away a ton of parking from a main road only to add dedicated, environmentally friendly, bike lanes. Nevermind that four cyclists an hour use the lanes tops or that it could have just as easily been a dedicated bus lane and done some actual good for people with jobs. But this way we're encouraging people to, like, take care of themselves man!

duxup 7y ago
Generally in my experience the folks pushing green options (this is admittedly a large group) tend to be fans of busses...
- montagg 7y ago
  I’m on a neighborhood council in LA, and this is not consistently the case. You often see this flip when it comes to supporting denser development, especially where it intersects with removing single family homes or rent controlled apartments. The willingness to remove parking to get some other benefit for the community evaporates. They’re making tradeoffs that make internal sense, but it does mean you don’t just see soccer moms saying no to removing available parking. It’s sometimes hippies vs urban planners.
  - duxup 7y ago
    I feel like denser housing is always a wildcard as far as any of the folks interested goes. Bussing much less so.
    - bluGill 7y ago
      Fortunately transit doesn't need density nearly as much as long straight lines to run on. If you can just convince your local council put in long through streets every half mile transit can work well in low densities. The much hated cul-de-sacs is fine so long as there are direct walking paths to the through streets so nobody is more than quarter mile from both an easy-west and north-south street with transit. (Note, in metric countries, go with 800 meters between through streets for 400 meters to a through street - close enough)
    - Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
      In Portland, Oregon, the hippies complain about single-family homes being torn down to make apartments/high-rises while simultaneously complaining about urban sprawl. They haven't grasped the concept that you have to accept either growing upwards, laterally, or both. You can't have neither.
psychometry 7y ago
Bike lanes are good. The easier and safer it is for people to bike, the more bikers there will be. It takes time and additional infrastructure to make it worthwhile.