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TIL, thanks. Although, based on https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en, it looks like t

TIL, thanks. Although, based on https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en, it looks like the rights owner can delay the appeal process for up to 60 days, keeping the video down (since you have to file a dispute which gives them 30 days to respond, and then an appeal which gives them another 30).

ikeboy 7y ago
Yes. If they choose to take revenue, then that revenue is held in escrow. If they choose to take the video down or demonetize it, then it appears that the video goes back up but is unmonetized during the dispute process. "If the policy is set to block (don't allow users to view the video on YouTube) or track (allow users to view the video without advertisements), this policy may be temporarily lifted until your dispute is resolved. Learn more about policy and claim basics. During this time, your video cannot be monetized." https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454 https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454 (click "file a dispute", then "What happens after you dispute?"
- nocturnial 7y ago
  > then that revenue is held in escrow This maybe a translation/different legal point of view, but I really doubt it's being held in escrow. If it's being held in escrow, google would've provided the other party with the details to check the account with the third party. I could be mistaken but I really doubt your google escrow assertion. Provide me with a statement of google in which they make that claim and I'll happily retract my statement.
  - ikeboy 7y ago
    Google holds it in escrow and doesn't give it to either side until resolved. See https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7000961?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7000961?hl=en
    - nocturnial 7y ago
      Escrow means an independent third party holds on to the money. It's a lot more complex than that, but let's take this simplified position as a starting point. The things you posted only justified my position. Google holds the money, not an independent party. If you say you hold something in escrow but actually keep the money for yourself during that time... well, in my region judges really don't appreciate that kind of argument.
      - ikeboy 7y ago
        Google is independent from the two parties in any dispute. I don't really care about your pedantry about terminology. We're not in court.
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        nocturnial 7y ago
        OK, I have karma to spare... Not even google is claiming to put it in escrow otherwise you would've given me a link where they claimed it was. You have no idea what you're talking about. If you want to say that google holds on to the money... that's fine because they do. But don't claim it's in escrow because you clearly don't even understand what it is. dang: it's ok to delete my account I'm done with this.
  - nocturnial 7y ago
    Oh great! Now I get downvoted because I know what escrow means. It would help if those who bothered to downvote me would provide a link where google says they held the money in escrow instead of a link where they said they would just hold on to the money. dang: It's ok to delete my account i'm done with this bullshit

ikeboy 7y ago

Yes. If they choose to take revenue, then that revenue is held in escrow. If they choose to take the video down or demonetize it, then it appears that the video goes back up but is unmonetized during the dispute process. "If the policy is set to block (don't allow users to view the video on YouTube) or track (allow users to view the video without advertisements), this policy may be temporarily lifted until your dispute is resolved. Learn more about policy and claim basics. During this time, your video cannot be monetized." https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454 https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454 (click "file a dispute", then "What happens after you dispute?"

nocturnial 7y ago
> then that revenue is held in escrow This maybe a translation/different legal point of view, but I really doubt it's being held in escrow. If it's being held in escrow, google would've provided the other party with the details to check the account with the third party. I could be mistaken but I really doubt your google escrow assertion. Provide me with a statement of google in which they make that claim and I'll happily retract my statement.
- ikeboy 7y ago
  Google holds it in escrow and doesn't give it to either side until resolved. See https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7000961?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7000961?hl=en
  - nocturnial 7y ago
    Escrow means an independent third party holds on to the money. It's a lot more complex than that, but let's take this simplified position as a starting point. The things you posted only justified my position. Google holds the money, not an independent party. If you say you hold something in escrow but actually keep the money for yourself during that time... well, in my region judges really don't appreciate that kind of argument.
    - ikeboy 7y ago
      Google is independent from the two parties in any dispute. I don't really care about your pedantry about terminology. We're not in court.
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      - nocturnial 7y ago
        OK, I have karma to spare... Not even google is claiming to put it in escrow otherwise you would've given me a link where they claimed it was. You have no idea what you're talking about. If you want to say that google holds on to the money... that's fine because they do. But don't claim it's in escrow because you clearly don't even understand what it is. dang: it's ok to delete my account I'm done with this.
- nocturnial 7y ago
  Oh great! Now I get downvoted because I know what escrow means. It would help if those who bothered to downvote me would provide a link where google says they held the money in escrow instead of a link where they said they would just hold on to the money. dang: It's ok to delete my account i'm done with this bullshit