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If my recollection of the events is correct, I do think this fine is fair as the slowing down of people's iPhones when a new iOS was released, combined with new

If my recollection of the events is correct, I do think this fine is fair as the slowing down of people's iPhones when a new iOS was released, combined with newer iPhone models being launched made people think that it was due them perceiving the phone was old tech and unable to power the latest iOS features, not the software doing it for the lifespan of the battery. Apple were silent about this for many years and were pressured to put the option to disable this in. This is what is important. They were happy to be silent and let users feel like the only option was to upgrade to have a fast phone. And since it's not feasible to replace batteries on older phone, everything was stacked in Apple's favour.

rgovostes 7y ago
> I do think this fine is fair as ... made people think that it was due them perceiving the phone ... > users feel like the only option ... A fine is fair because people jumped to conclusions because of the proximity in time of an OS release and a new product release? No, that's called a conspiracy theory. If people had convinced themselves this was a ploy to sell more phones, then why on earth would they go back to Apple for another round? I think it's in everyone's best interest for Apple to have been more transparent, but there was not a shred of proof of intention of harming users, and they ran a battery replacement program likely at a loss for a year.
- martin-adams 7y ago
  >> If people had convinced themselves this was a ploy to sell more phones, then why on earth would they go back to Apple for another round They believed their phones were obsolete, which it turns out they weren’t as it was in fact Apple who had slowed down the CPU to save power and made a decision not to inform users this was happening. I believe the consequence of this was those users feeling they needed to upgrade sooner that what would have been. That is my subjective take on it. Google Trends has shown that there is a spike in people searching for ‘iphone slow’ at the same time there is an iOS release. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/agkgha/oc_google_trends_data_for_iphone_slow_vs_new_ios/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/agkgha/oc_... While not causation, it is certainly correlated that people are perceiving a slow iphone when Apple release new software. Turns out the cause may have been Apple slowing down the phone in those updates.

rgovostes 7y ago

> I do think this fine is fair as ... made people think that it was due them perceiving the phone ... > users feel like the only option ... A fine is fair because people jumped to conclusions because of the proximity in time of an OS release and a new product release? No, that's called a conspiracy theory. If people had convinced themselves this was a ploy to sell more phones, then why on earth would they go back to Apple for another round? I think it's in everyone's best interest for Apple to have been more transparent, but there was not a shred of proof of intention of harming users, and they ran a battery replacement program likely at a loss for a year.

martin-adams 7y ago
>> If people had convinced themselves this was a ploy to sell more phones, then why on earth would they go back to Apple for another round They believed their phones were obsolete, which it turns out they weren’t as it was in fact Apple who had slowed down the CPU to save power and made a decision not to inform users this was happening. I believe the consequence of this was those users feeling they needed to upgrade sooner that what would have been. That is my subjective take on it. Google Trends has shown that there is a spike in people searching for ‘iphone slow’ at the same time there is an iOS release. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/agkgha/oc_google_trends_data_for_iphone_slow_vs_new_ios/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/agkgha/oc_... While not causation, it is certainly correlated that people are perceiving a slow iphone when Apple release new software. Turns out the cause may have been Apple slowing down the phone in those updates.