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And men told to wear blazer/sport coat, slacks, suit and 'step it up'. I don't see malice in the statement, it is just poorly worded.

• happytoexplain 7y ago
  It's hard to believe you think that asking a man to wear a suit and asking a woman to wear heels and a short dress are comparable in terms of respect.
  • wvlia5 7y ago
    A construction worker has to wear dirty clothes. A stripper, no clothes. A clown, ridiculous clothes. Different positions require different clothing. If you don't like your job, be it for clothing or what have you, you can quit.
    • dominotw 7y ago
      they are the same position though. thats the point.
    • nkrisc 7y ago
      The funny thing about the examples you gave is that whether a man or woman, the clothing is the same. You're not making the point I think you're trying to make. A male and female construction worker both wear dirty clothes and a hard hat. A male and female stripper both wear no clothes. A male and female clown both wear ridiculous clothes. Whereas apparently male salesmen should be wearing short skirts and high heels? Or only women? That's the problem.
      • wvlia5 7y ago
        High heels and skirt for females and suit and tie for males is what's considered elegant in traditional western fashion. It could also be pink hats for men and and yellow umbrellas for women. Or white clothes for the elderly and brown clothes for the young. Or any other arbitrary rule. Besides, suppose I have a shop and I discovered I sell more if I make men dress ridiculous, women dress erotic and elderly dress funny. So I require a dress code according to age/sex in order to optimize sales. What's the problem? Don't take the job if you don't want to
        • krapp 7y ago
          > High heels and skirt for females and suit and tie for males is what's considered elegant in traditional western fashion. But the dress code wasn't "high heels and skirt," it was high heels and short skirts. Men weren't being asked to unbutton their shirts to show off their pecs, or to wear tight pants to show off their bulge, but women were being asked to show off their legs and asses, at least implicitly.
          • wvlia5 7y ago
            So? Why can't I have a company in which some people are required to show their asses and not others, based on some arbitrary rule? That's the way I sell and employees can choose to stay or leave
            • krapp 7y ago
              >Why can't I have a company in which some people are required to show their asses and not others, based on some arbitrary rule? That's the way I sell and employees can choose to stay or leave First, it opens you up to massive sexual harassment and discrimination liability issues, and it's probably not even legal. Second, the bad publicity will drive away good hires and lose you sales, so it's not even good business, unless maybe you're a pimp. Third, it would make you a regressive, sexist jerk.
              • wvlia5 7y ago
                1- That only shows there are laws which are pretty dumb. 2- that's just your hypothesis. In my example I made the opposite hypothesis. That's irrelevant in any case. 3- The greatest jerk is the one who tries to impose their own preferences to prevent deals that have been freely accepted by all the parties involved.
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  • meztez 7y ago
    Probably because I believe you should wear whatever makes you comfortable within the context of the event you are attending. Women could be wearing suits, and men dresses or skirts, I don't think that matters. And if and it was just down to my personal opinion, it would be wear whatever you want that makes you happy. I understand some groups have expectation about people dressing nice and if I'm attending, I will conform. But my point was that everyone had a dress code imposed upon them and that it could have been handled maybe a little better. Just tell people to dress up I guess, no need to specify which sexes gets to wear what.