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Apple is notorious for ripping businesses built on their platforms out from under the people that created them. It has happened with OS X by them taking a popul

by chapel 16y ago

Apple is notorious for ripping businesses built on their platforms out from under the people that created them. It has happened with OS X by them taking a popular 3rd party utility/app and integrating the idea/look/feel directly with no attribution. It has happened with iOS, and now it is just coming to a point where Apple is flat out saying that if you make money on our platform, regardless if the value is outside of iOS, we want a cut if you want to be on it at all.

ghurlman 16y ago
It has happened with OS X by them taking a popular 3rd party utility/app and integrating the idea/look/feel directly with no attribution Citation?
- glhaynes 16y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia_Watson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia_Watson
  - moxiemk1 16y ago
    This seems to be someone making an OSX version of Apple's already existing Sherlock program? I'm not really sure how Sherlock 3 was copying Watson, since it was pretty clearly an evolution of Sherlock 2.
- marchdown 16y ago
  Konfabulator comes to mind: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2005/04/macosx-10-4.ars/17 http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2005/04/macosx-10-4.ars...
  - protomyth 16y ago
    This subscription model I have a problem with, but.... Ignoring the original Mac OS (and all the OS version up to 9) is the only way to say they ripped off Konfabulator. Desk Accessories finally make an appearance in OS X after missing since OS 9 and it is a ripoff of Konfabulator?
    - glhaynes 16y ago
      Can't believe this debate is happening again in 2011. Serious deja vu. [edit upon downvote: I don't mean it shouldn't happen, I just thought it was funny to suddenly be transported back to that time; hadn't even thought of the app nor the arguments around it in years.]
      - protomyth 16y ago
        I just get sick of people trotting this one out when it was history ignoring in the first place. It also ignores the whole Yahoo thing, but I digress. Its like during a really in-depth boxing debate trotting out the boxer's W-L record when wearing blue shorts.... I could be in a bad mood just because this foolish policy probably destroyed any hope of micro-payments on iOS devices.
loewenskind 16y ago
This sounds a bit hyperbolic. The company that is notorious for doing this is Microsoft.
- statictype 16y ago
  [Citation needed]
  - loewenskind 16y ago
    You can't possibly be serious. You don't know of Microsoft's long history of copying software that other companies had made, putting them out of business? And three other people as well apparently.
    - statictype 16y ago
      'Copying software'? Well, no, I'm not aware of Microsoft's long history of doing this. Surely you don't count Excel as a 'copy' of VisiCalc or Lotus 123 right?
      - loewenskind 16y ago
        I can't believe history can be completely forgotten in less than 20 years. Here are a couple of links I found with a quick googling: http://www.kmfms.com/whatsbad.html http://www.kmfms.com/whatsbad.html http://web.archive.org/web/20071215231524/http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/catalog/ http://web.archive.org/web/20071215231524/http://www.vcnet.c... The second tries to document every company destroyed by MS and how.

by chapel 16y ago

ghurlman 16y ago

It has happened with OS X by them taking a popular 3rd party utility/app and integrating the idea/look/feel directly with no attribution Citation?

glhaynes 16y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia_Watson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia_Watson
- moxiemk1 16y ago
  This seems to be someone making an OSX version of Apple's already existing Sherlock program? I'm not really sure how Sherlock 3 was copying Watson, since it was pretty clearly an evolution of Sherlock 2.
marchdown 16y ago
Konfabulator comes to mind: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2005/04/macosx-10-4.ars/17 http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2005/04/macosx-10-4.ars...
- protomyth 16y ago
  This subscription model I have a problem with, but.... Ignoring the original Mac OS (and all the OS version up to 9) is the only way to say they ripped off Konfabulator. Desk Accessories finally make an appearance in OS X after missing since OS 9 and it is a ripoff of Konfabulator?
  - glhaynes 16y ago
    Can't believe this debate is happening again in 2011. Serious deja vu. [edit upon downvote: I don't mean it shouldn't happen, I just thought it was funny to suddenly be transported back to that time; hadn't even thought of the app nor the arguments around it in years.]
    - protomyth 16y ago
      I just get sick of people trotting this one out when it was history ignoring in the first place. It also ignores the whole Yahoo thing, but I digress. Its like during a really in-depth boxing debate trotting out the boxer's W-L record when wearing blue shorts.... I could be in a bad mood just because this foolish policy probably destroyed any hope of micro-payments on iOS devices.

loewenskind 16y ago

This sounds a bit hyperbolic. The company that is notorious for doing this is Microsoft.

statictype 16y ago
[Citation needed]
- loewenskind 16y ago
  You can't possibly be serious. You don't know of Microsoft's long history of copying software that other companies had made, putting them out of business? And three other people as well apparently.
  - statictype 16y ago
    'Copying software'? Well, no, I'm not aware of Microsoft's long history of doing this. Surely you don't count Excel as a 'copy' of VisiCalc or Lotus 123 right?
    - loewenskind 16y ago
      I can't believe history can be completely forgotten in less than 20 years. Here are a couple of links I found with a quick googling: http://www.kmfms.com/whatsbad.html http://www.kmfms.com/whatsbad.html http://web.archive.org/web/20071215231524/http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/catalog/ http://web.archive.org/web/20071215231524/http://www.vcnet.c... The second tries to document every company destroyed by MS and how.