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I love the way everyone takes this at face value and it's just true now. I guess it's why we have fake news, just say it once. It's clearly a mix-up they will

I love the way everyone takes this at face value and it's just true now. I guess it's why we have fake news, just say it once. It's clearly a mix-up they will fix. It's probably when software updates happen it checks to see what to update on the account and deletes everything else. But lets not think to hard. Not like anyone here has made a mistake coding or had to deal with middle managers. And there are clearly issues with the ability to remote delete, Kindles had their OMG Amazon is deleting books period, and it sorted itself out. It also allows you to get updates, that's pretty OMG too quite frankly.

JohnFen 7y ago
> It's clearly a mix-up they will fix. Perhaps. But speaking for myself, that's not the point. The point is that this is a great example of the risks of having stuff that can be updated by the manufacturer. We see similar things happening (albeit at lower price points) in software all the time. This is an example of why I object to software that phones home and/or engages in automatic updates. It puts far too much control in the hands of companies.
- aaron695 7y ago
  > I object to software that phones home and/or engages in automatic updates But Tesla's don't auto update. So it's not on topic. We have to stay in reality. Updates push us forward. It comes with risks but so far the rewards outweight the risk. Elon made a car that can update! That's fucking amazing. It's what he does. Changes the game. Makes NEW things that push everything forward. It's a new way of thinking. These comments seem straight from TSLAQ but sadly don't seem to be from that intelligent evil which would be interesting! just seems like stupidity. A $50 billion+ company that works on reputation will ruin that for $7000?
  - JohnFen 7y ago
    > But Tesla's don't auto update. Good to know -- so users can simply elect not to accept updates? What about when Tesla changes the operating characteristics of the car, is that always optional? Is accepting the change this article is talking about optional? If so, then I have no objections, although I will still never buy a Tesla or any other vehicle that phones home. > Updates push us forward. It comes with risks but so far the rewards outweight the risk. Perhaps. But as long as it's the owners who get to decide whether or not the risk is worth it, that's fine. If the manufacturer gets to make that decision, that's not fine at all.
overgard 7y ago
It's the kind of mixup that can be fixed... after someone makes it a huge PR nightmare for them. Otherwise they would not give a shit.

JohnFen 7y ago

> It's clearly a mix-up they will fix. Perhaps. But speaking for myself, that's not the point. The point is that this is a great example of the risks of having stuff that can be updated by the manufacturer. We see similar things happening (albeit at lower price points) in software all the time. This is an example of why I object to software that phones home and/or engages in automatic updates. It puts far too much control in the hands of companies.

aaron695 7y ago
> I object to software that phones home and/or engages in automatic updates But Tesla's don't auto update. So it's not on topic. We have to stay in reality. Updates push us forward. It comes with risks but so far the rewards outweight the risk. Elon made a car that can update! That's fucking amazing. It's what he does. Changes the game. Makes NEW things that push everything forward. It's a new way of thinking. These comments seem straight from TSLAQ but sadly don't seem to be from that intelligent evil which would be interesting! just seems like stupidity. A $50 billion+ company that works on reputation will ruin that for $7000?
- JohnFen 7y ago
  > But Tesla's don't auto update. Good to know -- so users can simply elect not to accept updates? What about when Tesla changes the operating characteristics of the car, is that always optional? Is accepting the change this article is talking about optional? If so, then I have no objections, although I will still never buy a Tesla or any other vehicle that phones home. > Updates push us forward. It comes with risks but so far the rewards outweight the risk. Perhaps. But as long as it's the owners who get to decide whether or not the risk is worth it, that's fine. If the manufacturer gets to make that decision, that's not fine at all.

overgard 7y ago

It's the kind of mixup that can be fixed... after someone makes it a huge PR nightmare for them. Otherwise they would not give a shit.