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I don't understand this. If I select a candidate of three to offer a job, then as long as I'm not discriminating the others for things such as sexuality, gender

I don't understand this. If I select a candidate of three to offer a job, then as long as I'm not discriminating the others for things such as sexuality, gender, age, ect. then the person we feel is the best fit is just that. What we believe is the best candidate - no amount of arguing in a court is going to change that.

azernik 7y ago
Germany is not the US. Labor laws impose restrictions aside from banning discrimination against protected categories. As one example: it is illegal to say anything negative in a letter of reference. See https://workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/74438/recommendation-letter-in-germany-arbeitszeugnis/74495#74495 https://workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/74438/recommen...
ChuckNorris89 7y ago
Germany is not as egalitarian as the US when it comes to preventing discrimination for job applicants. Normally, in Germany, in your resume you should have a photo and specify your birthday/age and nationality, especially important when applying at traditional engineering companies. This opens you up for a lot of silent discrimination. So, if they reject you for being the wrong age, nationality or skin color (yes that happens, a former German manager explicitly told HR he doesn't want Indian candidates on his team) or for speaking German with a strange accent, they definitely don't want this information getting back to you as you can sue them for that so the only feedback you're gonna get is the legally safe copy-paste "unfortunately, we're looking for a candidate that better suits our needs".
- hvidgaard 7y ago
  I'm not from the US, but Denmark and we basically have the same laws. You don't tell them you don't want them because they're Indian, that shouldn't be a factor anyway, but because they're not the best fit due to skill/social/experience/whatever legally matters.
piokoch 7y ago
I think the problem is your "ect.", in recent years number of various minority groups that might feel discriminated has grown and keep growing. You never know what will be next discriminated minority that you might offend and that will might sue you next year for some seemingly innocent explanation. Why anyone would anyone take a risk? To make someone feel better?
- travisporter 7y ago
  Yeah. It’s human decency. Got cut from football tryouts in high school. Got excellent feedback to improve my stamina. Ended up running cross country cuz I loved it :) Straight out of college I got rejected by failing miserably at a technical interview almost to the point of tears when I realized how little I knew. Maybe my interviewer saw this but I got very practical feedback, and knew exactly what to do with myself that summer to get hired.

azernik 7y ago

Germany is not the US. Labor laws impose restrictions aside from banning discrimination against protected categories. As one example: it is illegal to say anything negative in a letter of reference. See https://workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/74438/recommendation-letter-in-germany-arbeitszeugnis/74495#74495 https://workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/74438/recommen...

ChuckNorris89 7y ago

Germany is not as egalitarian as the US when it comes to preventing discrimination for job applicants. Normally, in Germany, in your resume you should have a photo and specify your birthday/age and nationality, especially important when applying at traditional engineering companies. This opens you up for a lot of silent discrimination. So, if they reject you for being the wrong age, nationality or skin color (yes that happens, a former German manager explicitly told HR he doesn't want Indian candidates on his team) or for speaking German with a strange accent, they definitely don't want this information getting back to you as you can sue them for that so the only feedback you're gonna get is the legally safe copy-paste "unfortunately, we're looking for a candidate that better suits our needs".

hvidgaard 7y ago
I'm not from the US, but Denmark and we basically have the same laws. You don't tell them you don't want them because they're Indian, that shouldn't be a factor anyway, but because they're not the best fit due to skill/social/experience/whatever legally matters.

piokoch 7y ago

I think the problem is your "ect.", in recent years number of various minority groups that might feel discriminated has grown and keep growing. You never know what will be next discriminated minority that you might offend and that will might sue you next year for some seemingly innocent explanation. Why anyone would anyone take a risk? To make someone feel better?

travisporter 7y ago
Yeah. It’s human decency. Got cut from football tryouts in high school. Got excellent feedback to improve my stamina. Ended up running cross country cuz I loved it :) Straight out of college I got rejected by failing miserably at a technical interview almost to the point of tears when I realized how little I knew. Maybe my interviewer saw this but I got very practical feedback, and knew exactly what to do with myself that summer to get hired.