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Schmidt on Nokia: "We would have loved that they had chosen Android"

15 points by gspyrou 16y ago

brudgers 16y ago
In the enterprise - which is where the Nokia-Microsoft collaboration is targeted - the ability to treat user data with more confidentiality than Google is typically structured to provide is a huge advantage for Nokia. Ultimately, Google is a company focused on consumers and that is not fully compatible with Nokia's interests in being part of the enterprise technology suite. Essentially, the choice between Android and WP7 for Nokia is a choice between the impact of their respective revenue models on Nokia's customers. From a B2B standpoint, the Android model only works if Google can directly monetize Nokia's customers into a revenue stream. Microsoft's more traditional OEM model allows Nokia a greater degree of control over customer experience. That may be one of the problems with Android which Nokia chose to avoid. Although advertising which extends content can add to the user experience (for example in the old print DDJ, an ad for a compiler). That's not what Google's advertising model delivers. The Google advertising model is largely independent of the editorial content of a page whenever they have access to individual data - It's focus is on individual user behavior and history linked to IP address and browser signature and delivering ROI to advertisers not publishers. Has any publisher ever claimed that Google ads improve the user experience of their website?
- sudont 16y ago
  Not to mention the fact that there really isn't any other manufacturer concentrating on WP7: where's the differentiating factor between Nokia's Android phones and Samsung's Android phones? If you stray too far, the Android experience is broken, but if you don't you're just another hardware manufacturer for Google. Ironically, Nokia is attempting to avoid the problems that plagued Windows-box manufacturers by going with a Microsoft product.
  - bitwize 16y ago
    Where's the differentiating factor between Nokia's Windows Phone 7 phones and Samsung's Windows Phone 7 phones?
- tzs 16y ago
  If Nokia had went with Android, I don't see why Nokia would care about Google's revenue stream. Couldn't Nokia toss out the monetized Google apps that come with Android and replace them with Nokia's own apps?
  - brudgers 16y ago
    The integration with Google is part of the appeal of Android for consumers. If Nokia has to develop its own App ecosystem, they could just stick with Symbian (or MeeGo) - in other words they would have exactly the same technical workload without the market differentiation Symbian provides. Google's revenue stream is relevant because of the IP issues associated with Davlik. Google does not necessarily need to vigorously defend Oracle's lawsuit and Oracle might not pass up an agreement which left phone manufacturer's footing the bill for IP infringement.
masklinn 16y ago
Duh... in other news, water is wet.
mindctrl 16y ago
The same stories get posted 5000 times on HN. WTF

15 points by gspyrou 16y ago

In the enterprise - which is where the Nokia-Microsoft collaboration is targeted - the ability to treat user data with more confidentiality than Google is typically structured to provide is a huge advantage for Nokia. Ultimately, Google is a company focused on consumers and that is not fully compatible with Nokia's interests in being part of the enterprise technology suite. Essentially, the choice between Android and WP7 for Nokia is a choice between the impact of their respective revenue models on Nokia's customers. From a B2B standpoint, the Android model only works if Google can directly monetize Nokia's customers into a revenue stream. Microsoft's more traditional OEM model allows Nokia a greater degree of control over customer experience. That may be one of the problems with Android which Nokia chose to avoid. Although advertising which extends content can add to the user experience (for example in the old print DDJ, an ad for a compiler). That's not what Google's advertising model delivers. The Google advertising model is largely independent of the editorial content of a page whenever they have access to individual data - It's focus is on individual user behavior and history linked to IP address and browser signature and delivering ROI to advertisers not publishers. Has any publisher ever claimed that Google ads improve the user experience of their website?

sudont 16y ago
Not to mention the fact that there really isn't any other manufacturer concentrating on WP7: where's the differentiating factor between Nokia's Android phones and Samsung's Android phones? If you stray too far, the Android experience is broken, but if you don't you're just another hardware manufacturer for Google. Ironically, Nokia is attempting to avoid the problems that plagued Windows-box manufacturers by going with a Microsoft product.
- bitwize 16y ago
  Where's the differentiating factor between Nokia's Windows Phone 7 phones and Samsung's Windows Phone 7 phones?
tzs 16y ago
If Nokia had went with Android, I don't see why Nokia would care about Google's revenue stream. Couldn't Nokia toss out the monetized Google apps that come with Android and replace them with Nokia's own apps?
- brudgers 16y ago
  The integration with Google is part of the appeal of Android for consumers. If Nokia has to develop its own App ecosystem, they could just stick with Symbian (or MeeGo) - in other words they would have exactly the same technical workload without the market differentiation Symbian provides. Google's revenue stream is relevant because of the IP issues associated with Davlik. Google does not necessarily need to vigorously defend Oracle's lawsuit and Oracle might not pass up an agreement which left phone manufacturer's footing the bill for IP infringement.

masklinn 16y ago

Duh... in other news, water is wet.

mindctrl 16y ago

The same stories get posted 5000 times on HN. WTF