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Its fine if USB-C is the new standard.. as long as its actually a real standard. Its funny that we need a law for this, but we really do.

by ArtDev 7y ago

anoncake 7y ago
The EU tried to get the manufacturers to cooperate without a formal law but Apple continued to apple.
- olliej 7y ago
  Indeed, think, if apple had only kowtowed a few years ago we could be using the wonderful mini-usb forever. A single plug means never migrating from whatever is standardized now, because doing so would me violating the law. Never mind the bizarre obsession the usb group had with making as many holes to get stuff stuck in as possible, nor the excessively loose tolerances in the spec. But hey, now we get to have usb-c forever, with no way for any company to move to anything else.
  - ISL 7y ago
    I doubt that the new law would prevent USB-C and a new plug. If the new plug turns out to be awesome (magsafe, anyone?), voters could clamor for it to become a new standard...
    - prostheticvamp 7y ago
      Excellent. Now I need European regulators to allow for me to see innovation in luxury consumer products. They couldn’t find something useful to do with their time?
    - olliej 7y ago
      nope, that means for (take your example, MagSafe) to ever be shipped the EU would have to create new legislation for it. That means you'd be unlikely to ever see something like MagSafe be shipped. Similarly, for anyone to iterate on usb-c they'd have to get a new spec standardized, and then go to the EU parliament to get that new spec bought in. The moment that happens you're back to multiple plugs. I still don't understand what problem they think they're solving with this - the first change is millions of cables and devices become defunct through legally mandated obsolescence. The next change is what...?
      - WanderPanda 7y ago
        Next change is building a wall so we citizens can‘t escape the hell they are creating with their abundance of good intentions. Further steps: -US led international coalition needs to intervene to free the europeans from their overlords -The europeans need to rebuild everything from scratch once again -British people laughing up their sleeves
  - kikoreis 7y ago
    I thought this law specified the requirement for a standard, but didn't enforce a specific one. Meaning that industry simply needs to come together to define a common connector, and they can over time develop and adopt new standards through consensus.
    - anoncake 7y ago
      Yeah, at most the law will mandate USB without specifying a maximum version. It's ridiculous how people here thinks the EU is a bunch of control freaks, especially considering they waited for 10 years if the industry could get it shit together without help.

Its fine if USB-C is the new standard.. as long as its actually a real standard. Its funny that we need a law for this, but we really do.

by ArtDev 7y ago

Its fine if USB-C is the new standard.. as long as its actually a real standard. Its funny that we need a law for this, but we really do.

anoncake 7y ago

The EU tried to get the manufacturers to cooperate without a formal law but Apple continued to apple.

olliej 7y ago
Indeed, think, if apple had only kowtowed a few years ago we could be using the wonderful mini-usb forever. A single plug means never migrating from whatever is standardized now, because doing so would me violating the law. Never mind the bizarre obsession the usb group had with making as many holes to get stuff stuck in as possible, nor the excessively loose tolerances in the spec. But hey, now we get to have usb-c forever, with no way for any company to move to anything else.
- ISL 7y ago
  I doubt that the new law would prevent USB-C and a new plug. If the new plug turns out to be awesome (magsafe, anyone?), voters could clamor for it to become a new standard...
  - prostheticvamp 7y ago
    Excellent. Now I need European regulators to allow for me to see innovation in luxury consumer products. They couldn’t find something useful to do with their time?
  - olliej 7y ago
    nope, that means for (take your example, MagSafe) to ever be shipped the EU would have to create new legislation for it. That means you'd be unlikely to ever see something like MagSafe be shipped. Similarly, for anyone to iterate on usb-c they'd have to get a new spec standardized, and then go to the EU parliament to get that new spec bought in. The moment that happens you're back to multiple plugs. I still don't understand what problem they think they're solving with this - the first change is millions of cables and devices become defunct through legally mandated obsolescence. The next change is what...?
    - WanderPanda 7y ago
      Next change is building a wall so we citizens can‘t escape the hell they are creating with their abundance of good intentions. Further steps: -US led international coalition needs to intervene to free the europeans from their overlords -The europeans need to rebuild everything from scratch once again -British people laughing up their sleeves
- kikoreis 7y ago
  I thought this law specified the requirement for a standard, but didn't enforce a specific one. Meaning that industry simply needs to come together to define a common connector, and they can over time develop and adopt new standards through consensus.
  - anoncake 7y ago
    Yeah, at most the law will mandate USB without specifying a maximum version. It's ridiculous how people here thinks the EU is a bunch of control freaks, especially considering they waited for 10 years if the industry could get it shit together without help.