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It is maybe worth noting that TMNT started as an indie comic making fun of superheroes. Think about it, superhero turtles livin in the sewers... No particular p

It is maybe worth noting that TMNT started as an indie comic making fun of superheroes. Think about it, superhero turtles livin in the sewers... No particular point, I just think it's funny.

GuiA 7y ago
The point I choose to see is that consumerism and capitalism do not discriminate. Anything and everything can and will be assimilated and squeezed for every cent that it’s possible to extract, no matter how punk and anti establishment/anti commercial your original creations may have been. (see also: the appropriation of feminist/LGBTQ/other originally fringe movements iconography by major companies the moment it became profitable to do so)
- ahartmetz 7y ago
  This is one of the strengths of capitalism, I have thought about it many times. It came up in a fairly exemplary way once when there was a fashion photographer in a group I went drinking with. Nice bloke with some interesting stories. He mentioned a plan for an elaborate practical joke at a fashion show by showing some crudely made post-apocalyptic style collection. Anything "scandalous" would effectively just end up being good publicity.
jariel 7y ago
Yes, TMNT was very cool at the start, I always assumed it was some 'big monolith' that they sold out to, in fact, it was the original creators themselves. They saw $$$ in toys and completely adapted the creative line for toys, cartoons etc.. They pretty much cashed in on their indie creation.
- tinco 7y ago
  As well they should have, the toys were great.
timewasted 7y ago
The story that I always remember is that TMNT is based roughly on Daredevil In Daredevil, Matt Murdoch pushes an old man out of the way of a truck that contains chemicals that blind him but give him superhuman abilities. He is then trained by his mentor Stick the fight against The Hand. In TMNT, there is an incident that involves chemicals getting into a sewer that transforms the turtles as well as the rat that is with them. That rat is named Splinter, and he trains the turtles to fight against The Foot. Also no particular point aside from my own amusement!
- egypturnash 7y ago
  There’s a lot of comics nerdery scattered throughout the early issues. Up to and including an issue that is basically about Jack Kirby and how Stan Lee screwed him over.

It is maybe worth noting that TMNT started as an indie comic making fun of superheroes. Think about it, superhero turtles livin in the sewers... No particular point, I just think it's funny.

GuiA 7y ago

The point I choose to see is that consumerism and capitalism do not discriminate. Anything and everything can and will be assimilated and squeezed for every cent that it’s possible to extract, no matter how punk and anti establishment/anti commercial your original creations may have been. (see also: the appropriation of feminist/LGBTQ/other originally fringe movements iconography by major companies the moment it became profitable to do so)

ahartmetz 7y ago
This is one of the strengths of capitalism, I have thought about it many times. It came up in a fairly exemplary way once when there was a fashion photographer in a group I went drinking with. Nice bloke with some interesting stories. He mentioned a plan for an elaborate practical joke at a fashion show by showing some crudely made post-apocalyptic style collection. Anything "scandalous" would effectively just end up being good publicity.

jariel 7y ago

Yes, TMNT was very cool at the start, I always assumed it was some 'big monolith' that they sold out to, in fact, it was the original creators themselves. They saw $$$ in toys and completely adapted the creative line for toys, cartoons etc.. They pretty much cashed in on their indie creation.

tinco 7y ago
As well they should have, the toys were great.

timewasted 7y ago

The story that I always remember is that TMNT is based roughly on Daredevil In Daredevil, Matt Murdoch pushes an old man out of the way of a truck that contains chemicals that blind him but give him superhuman abilities. He is then trained by his mentor Stick the fight against The Hand. In TMNT, there is an incident that involves chemicals getting into a sewer that transforms the turtles as well as the rat that is with them. That rat is named Splinter, and he trains the turtles to fight against The Foot. Also no particular point aside from my own amusement!

egypturnash 7y ago
There’s a lot of comics nerdery scattered throughout the early issues. Up to and including an issue that is basically about Jack Kirby and how Stan Lee screwed him over.