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> The Russia hoax couldn't stick. The dossier of Pres. Trump peeing on women couldn't stick. Stormy Daniels couldn't stick. Allegations against Supreme Court ap

> The Russia hoax couldn't stick. The dossier of Pres. Trump peeing on women couldn't stick. Stormy Daniels couldn't stick. Allegations against Supreme Court appointees couldn't stick. Impeachment couldn't stick. > If we want to talk about disinformation campaigns -- let's start right here at home: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, our own politicians, lobbyists. Curiously left Fox News and OAN off this list. > Worry more about your own bias and refusal to think for yourself. The irony in your post is incredible. You are parroting Fox News and Russian propaganda talking points while directing people to think for themselves.

complianceowl 7y ago
Allow me to address your grey comment. By accusing me of “parroting” and saying that the irony in my post is “incredible” might show how you feel, but does nothing to address my post. You provided a lot of emotion, zero facts — and nothing even remotely close to a substantive counter in your reply. And for that reason, I’m out.
- ptyyy 7y ago
  > You provided a lot of emotion, zero facts This could be said about your original post.
  - complianceowl 7y ago
    I provided specific examples of events that actually transpired. Stop lying.
    - knightofmars 7y ago
      Examples are not facts. Saying that "The Russian hoax couldn't stick." is a personal interpretation, because it falls on the narrative that Alexander Downer (once leader of the Austrialian conservative party) is somehow part of an elaborate conspiracy. Which, that he's part of an elaborate conspiracy, has zero supporting evidence and is being spread by the conservative media. Additionally, unless you want to believe that Mitt Romney is a "tool of the liberals" then "Impeachment couldn't stick." was entirely due to our system being broken and entirely based around party politics. Because, according to Mitt Romney, Trump absolutely abused his power and broke the law. We don't have people who actually care about the law and upholding it governing us so we have to deal with a broken system. That's a condemnation of both parties, they are both awful.
      - complianceowl 7y ago
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        knightofmars 7y ago
        >But I know how these debates go; they're a waste of oxygen... And I guess you don't actually debate. I speak with friends on both sides of the political spectrum, specifically conservatives who have read the Mueller report and they don't write it off the way you are. Were there problems discovered? Yes. Was the FISA court lied to in some cases? Yes. But from what I'm seeing, you have the same all-or-nothing approach to these topics that a lot of others do. This is why I hate talking to most people on both the left and the right about politics. >... still haven't address the example-facts I initially provided. Hi, let me help you. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/example https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/example >Trump was just acquitted baby!!! Whooo hooo. Much on that knighttofmars :))))))))) Surprise! I actually don't care that Trump was acquitted! Feel free to go taunt someone on a message board on MSNBC or WaPo where outraged liberals prefer to stalk. Take a step back and realize that you're commenting at someone you don't know and that you expected that comment to elicit emotions of a specific nature. You've achieved the broadcast of your own personal biases and lack of awareness. Congratulations?
        complianceowl 7y ago
        Honestly, I feel stupid right now. I shouldn't have said what I said. This is what I hate about debating online. It's so easy to devolve into exactly what I don't want to be: a hateful, inflammatory person. I want to sincerely apologize to you for being a disrespectful idiot - and I mean every word of that. I sincerely hope this is the last time I ever stoop this low and disrespect someone. Again, I'm sincerely sorry for my words man.
        knightofmars 7y ago
        Having been exactly where you are now, I completely accept your apology. I'll say this though, don't write off online debate completely. Yes, it can devolve sometimes but I've genuinely had some great online conversations with people that had totally different worldviews than myself. For me, it took learning to recognize and turn off my own emotional biases (which I still screw up and make an idiot of myself occasionally) that caused me to say things that I really regretted later (some of which I'm sure still exist on comment boards elsewhere). Best of luck in life and don't beat yourself up too much, we're all just humans trying to do our best.
- SonOfKyuss 7y ago
  > Allow me to address your grey comment. Again with the irony. You're an expert at it.

complianceowl 7y ago

Allow me to address your grey comment. By accusing me of “parroting” and saying that the irony in my post is “incredible” might show how you feel, but does nothing to address my post. You provided a lot of emotion, zero facts — and nothing even remotely close to a substantive counter in your reply. And for that reason, I’m out.

ptyyy 7y ago
> You provided a lot of emotion, zero facts This could be said about your original post.
- complianceowl 7y ago
  I provided specific examples of events that actually transpired. Stop lying.
  - knightofmars 7y ago
    Examples are not facts. Saying that "The Russian hoax couldn't stick." is a personal interpretation, because it falls on the narrative that Alexander Downer (once leader of the Austrialian conservative party) is somehow part of an elaborate conspiracy. Which, that he's part of an elaborate conspiracy, has zero supporting evidence and is being spread by the conservative media. Additionally, unless you want to believe that Mitt Romney is a "tool of the liberals" then "Impeachment couldn't stick." was entirely due to our system being broken and entirely based around party politics. Because, according to Mitt Romney, Trump absolutely abused his power and broke the law. We don't have people who actually care about the law and upholding it governing us so we have to deal with a broken system. That's a condemnation of both parties, they are both awful.
    - complianceowl 7y ago
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      - knightofmars 7y ago
        >But I know how these debates go; they're a waste of oxygen... And I guess you don't actually debate. I speak with friends on both sides of the political spectrum, specifically conservatives who have read the Mueller report and they don't write it off the way you are. Were there problems discovered? Yes. Was the FISA court lied to in some cases? Yes. But from what I'm seeing, you have the same all-or-nothing approach to these topics that a lot of others do. This is why I hate talking to most people on both the left and the right about politics. >... still haven't address the example-facts I initially provided. Hi, let me help you. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/example https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/example >Trump was just acquitted baby!!! Whooo hooo. Much on that knighttofmars :))))))))) Surprise! I actually don't care that Trump was acquitted! Feel free to go taunt someone on a message board on MSNBC or WaPo where outraged liberals prefer to stalk. Take a step back and realize that you're commenting at someone you don't know and that you expected that comment to elicit emotions of a specific nature. You've achieved the broadcast of your own personal biases and lack of awareness. Congratulations?
        complianceowl 7y ago
        Honestly, I feel stupid right now. I shouldn't have said what I said. This is what I hate about debating online. It's so easy to devolve into exactly what I don't want to be: a hateful, inflammatory person. I want to sincerely apologize to you for being a disrespectful idiot - and I mean every word of that. I sincerely hope this is the last time I ever stoop this low and disrespect someone. Again, I'm sincerely sorry for my words man.
        knightofmars 7y ago
        Having been exactly where you are now, I completely accept your apology. I'll say this though, don't write off online debate completely. Yes, it can devolve sometimes but I've genuinely had some great online conversations with people that had totally different worldviews than myself. For me, it took learning to recognize and turn off my own emotional biases (which I still screw up and make an idiot of myself occasionally) that caused me to say things that I really regretted later (some of which I'm sure still exist on comment boards elsewhere). Best of luck in life and don't beat yourself up too much, we're all just humans trying to do our best.
SonOfKyuss 7y ago
> Allow me to address your grey comment. Again with the irony. You're an expert at it.