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> I am now convinced that the more appropriate question may be “Are our streets safe?” Ya think? It's insane to mix car traffic and people. It was deliberat
by carapace 7y ago
> I am now convinced that the more appropriate question may be “Are our streets safe?”
Ya think?
It's insane to mix car traffic and people.
It was deliberately normalized by a systematic campaign of propaganda. (This is true, it really happened: "The Real Reason Jaywalking Is A Crime" (Adam Ruins Everything) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxopfjXkArM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxopfjXkArM ) We went from "speed demons" to "jay walkers". Fast-forward several decades and more Americans have died from cars than from wars. (The rest of the world also has horrific death rates from cars but more time of war.)
> These clips make the civil engineer in me cringe.
As well they should. We're looking at a system that is, inadvertently but fundamentally, designed to kill people.
> One potential solution is to add a bike box to increase visibility of cyclists and scooterists.
And that's the Stockholm Syndrome, if you will, causing cognitive dissonance leading to blatantly illogical statements from otherwise sane and intelligent people.
Anthropologists point out that every society succeeds at getting it's children to act like it's adults. Part of this is the normalization of whatever weird stuff your society/culture has going on. I'm reminded of what the New Guinea man said the missionary, "If God didn't want us to eat people He wouldn't have made them out of meat."
Putting car and non-car traffic on the same road is our cannibalism. "Once you see it..."
- llukas 7y ago> It's insane to mix car traffic and people. It is not. Non-car traffic just needs to be prioritized properly, that is being more important than car traffic. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woonerf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woonerf
- carapace 7y agoOkay those look pretty decent, especially if they are designed with bollards and doglegs and such, so you can't get up to a dangerous velocity around people. It's still a little insane, you're still going to get e.g. kids on bikes getting crushed by multi-ton metal horseless wagons, but it's not as insane as e.g. the clips in the article.
- llukas 7y agoSee also this: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/strict-liability-in-the-netherlands/ https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/strict-liabili...