> Like I said, I know people like this, and I am not willing to label them as people who have poor social skills or other disparaging things. Labeling things l

> Like I said, I know people like this, and I am not willing to label them as people who have poor social skills or other disparaging things. Labeling things like "ignorance" and "poor social skills" as "disparaging" isn't particularly useful. When I say someone is ignorant or has poor social skills, that's not a statement that they're a bad person, it's an identification of a problem they have (which is correctable). > I don't consider this category of dishonesty to be one that a person necessarily needs to correct It sounds like this may be the core of our disagreement. I won't say that a person "needs" to correct it--instead I would say that the person, and my friendship with that person, will be significantly limited by not correcting this problem.