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healthcare is getting so bad that eventually medicare for all will be a republican position too. They will call it something else, but it will happen. the par

healthcare is getting so bad that eventually medicare for all will be a republican position too. They will call it something else, but it will happen. the party has fundamentally changed. Oligarchs know that money has to be spent to keep the plebs just well enough to prevent revolt.

FireBeyond 7y ago
> medicare for all will be a republican position too. They will call it something else There was a survey that went around a few years, asking Republican voters something along the lines of: "Would you vote for an Affordable Care Act if it was offered as an alternative to Obamacare?" A significant amount said "Yes".
- xtian 7y ago
  There was also a survey (not filtered by party affiliation) asking if people would support a single-payer program with an elimination of private insurance. A majority said "Yes."
Mirioron 7y ago
I think so too. The main thing is that it might even lower how much money is paid for that healthcare system in total.
heavyset_go 7y ago
Unfortunately, there is no evidence of this, especially when Republicans recently took away food stamps people rely on to feed themselves. Can't revolt if you're disabled and untreated, tied to your job to keep your kids healthy, incapacitated by treatable illness or weak from hunger.
- metalliqaz 7y ago
  yeah we have a few more years yet before the turn of the tide, but I remain confident it will happen
  - heavyset_go 7y ago
    I'm not sure where the confidence comes from when in 2017, Republicans in the House and Senate tried to repeal the ACA without a replacement. It's on their radar and part of their platform is removing any type of protections or public access to healthcare.
    - metalliqaz 7y ago
      but what did the president say in his recent address? he said the opposite. he said that because it's popular with his base. the republican party is now his party, and the old core ideals will be washed away. like I said, they'll call it something else. repeal obamacare and make something new that will basically be medicare for all in some shape or form. it will be a handout to the big insurance, drug, and healthcare companies, I'm sure.
      - heavyset_go 7y ago
        The president also said he had a great healthcare plan, trust him, and that he'd repeal the ACA with that great replacement. When it came time to repeal the ACA, there was no such replacement. The president says a lot of things, many of which aren't true.
        metalliqaz 7y ago
        Yeah, I know, he's a buffoon. What's important to me is his base. Other than the evangelical vote that is single-issue (abortion), the base is essentially just "rage against the elites" and they need healthcare badly. I didn't specify before but I'm talking like 8-12 years down the line.

FireBeyond 7y ago

> medicare for all will be a republican position too. They will call it something else There was a survey that went around a few years, asking Republican voters something along the lines of: "Would you vote for an Affordable Care Act if it was offered as an alternative to Obamacare?" A significant amount said "Yes".

xtian 7y ago
There was also a survey (not filtered by party affiliation) asking if people would support a single-payer program with an elimination of private insurance. A majority said "Yes."

Mirioron 7y ago

I think so too. The main thing is that it might even lower how much money is paid for that healthcare system in total.

heavyset_go 7y ago

Unfortunately, there is no evidence of this, especially when Republicans recently took away food stamps people rely on to feed themselves. Can't revolt if you're disabled and untreated, tied to your job to keep your kids healthy, incapacitated by treatable illness or weak from hunger.

metalliqaz 7y ago
yeah we have a few more years yet before the turn of the tide, but I remain confident it will happen
- heavyset_go 7y ago
  I'm not sure where the confidence comes from when in 2017, Republicans in the House and Senate tried to repeal the ACA without a replacement. It's on their radar and part of their platform is removing any type of protections or public access to healthcare.
  - metalliqaz 7y ago
    but what did the president say in his recent address? he said the opposite. he said that because it's popular with his base. the republican party is now his party, and the old core ideals will be washed away. like I said, they'll call it something else. repeal obamacare and make something new that will basically be medicare for all in some shape or form. it will be a handout to the big insurance, drug, and healthcare companies, I'm sure.
    - heavyset_go 7y ago
      The president also said he had a great healthcare plan, trust him, and that he'd repeal the ACA with that great replacement. When it came time to repeal the ACA, there was no such replacement. The president says a lot of things, many of which aren't true.
      - metalliqaz 7y ago
        Yeah, I know, he's a buffoon. What's important to me is his base. Other than the evangelical vote that is single-issue (abortion), the base is essentially just "rage against the elites" and they need healthcare badly. I didn't specify before but I'm talking like 8-12 years down the line.