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There's speculation that the CCP is lying about the actual numbers of dead/infected due to 2019-nCoV, but this article is pure speculation based on a single scr

There's speculation that the CCP is lying about the actual numbers of dead/infected due to 2019-nCoV, but this article is pure speculation based on a single screenshot. It's easy to change the numbers on Tencent just using the "Inspect" button in your browser. Here is my Tencent insider leak with the _real_ numbers: https://imgur.com/a/WxvA9q6 https://imgur.com/a/WxvA9q6 Looks like the entire globe is infected, with more than 2 billion deaths.

suyash 7y ago
Multiple people saw those numbers as mentioned in the article, I would trust regular people over CCP
gamblor956 7y ago
True, it's easy to just change the website in your browser. What's concerning is that (a) many people saw these same numbers at the same time and all independently commented on this online, and (b) China has a known history of falsifying data that makes it look bad. For example, based on multiple independent analyses, including of (pig) feed supply chains, more than half of pigs in China have died in the swine flu outbreak, or more than twice what China currently reports. (See for example, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/opinion/china-swine-fever.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/opinion/china-swine-fever... which goes with the August 2019 numbers, but compare to https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-swinefever-archer-daniels/african-swine-fever-in-china-more-severe-than-previously-thought-adm-cfo-idUSKBN1XN2EE https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-swinefever-archer-d... which uses October numbers.) With SARS, it took more than a decade for the true numbers to come out--and that only because a new leader wanted to embarrass his predecessors.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  "more than half of pigs in China have died in the swine flu outbreak" I was just reading something that said farmers are having trouble getting enough feed for their livestock, such as chickens, and "millions" of them could be in jeopardy. But it also mentioned that there are something like ~300 million chickens living in all, and ~500M slaughtered normally in a year. So on average, millions must die every day anyway.

suyash 7y ago

Multiple people saw those numbers as mentioned in the article, I would trust regular people over CCP

gamblor956 7y ago

True, it's easy to just change the website in your browser. What's concerning is that (a) many people saw these same numbers at the same time and all independently commented on this online, and (b) China has a known history of falsifying data that makes it look bad. For example, based on multiple independent analyses, including of (pig) feed supply chains, more than half of pigs in China have died in the swine flu outbreak, or more than twice what China currently reports. (See for example, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/opinion/china-swine-fever.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/opinion/china-swine-fever... which goes with the August 2019 numbers, but compare to https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-swinefever-archer-daniels/african-swine-fever-in-china-more-severe-than-previously-thought-adm-cfo-idUSKBN1XN2EE https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-swinefever-archer-d... which uses October numbers.) With SARS, it took more than a decade for the true numbers to come out--and that only because a new leader wanted to embarrass his predecessors.

perl4ever 7y ago
"more than half of pigs in China have died in the swine flu outbreak" I was just reading something that said farmers are having trouble getting enough feed for their livestock, such as chickens, and "millions" of them could be in jeopardy. But it also mentioned that there are something like ~300 million chickens living in all, and ~500M slaughtered normally in a year. So on average, millions must die every day anyway.