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> no need to be an ass about it I disagree. Sometimes people used to everyone walking eggshells around them need a jolt of assholishness.
by arkh 7y ago
> no need to be an ass about it
I disagree. Sometimes people used to everyone walking eggshells around them need a jolt of assholishness.
- acollins1331 7y agoSometimes. But not every time. Critiquing someone's science is not one of those times.
- adamsea 7y agoPerhaps, but being the decider about who does and who doesn’t deserve some assholishness is the heart of what an asshole is. Someone who disregards the wishes and feelings of another. Like if you said you like asparagus and I said “you should like broccoli, it’s better”, if we weren’t buddies like you that and I wasn’t your nutritionist :).
- chrisseaton 7y agoSaying that some people need to be subjected to abuse is a terrible point of view.
- exergy 7y agoAbuse is a heavily loaded word, and as an aside, I hate the cheapening of language in modern times. Assault is another that's getting cheapened. Someone bluntly telling another "you're dead wrong" isn't abuse IMO. But to your main point, I've seen my share of the polite leading the polite. If there is a general level of competence, fine, work can still proceed. But often, workplaces need an asshole who will voice their opinion in blunt language. There are moments when diplomacy causes, at best, avoidable delays, but at worst completely fucked projects.
- watwut 7y agoThere is massive difference between "you are wrong" and mocking someone. Both deserve different response - when someone mocks you it is perfectly ok to mock back or ignore that person. Which is what people do. Mocking makes you asshole. Workplaces don't need assholes. People who reasinably criticise are not assholes.
- unishark 7y agoBluntness is considered rude in most societies I'm familiar with. Not good either. As another aside, I feel this is the problem with downvoting. It is a blunt criticism in a society where criticism must be delivered cautiously to avoid offense.
- watwut 7y agoIf you are talking about "pathetic inadequacy of the contributions" then the contributions better really be inadequate and pathetic. Only then it is bluntness or "telling it like it is". And most often, those contributions were normal or even state of art when they have been made - making accusation not so much blunt. Instead, it is appeal to emotions, an attempt to leverage funy sounding expression for own goal. And it is only fair when people respond to it in kind.
- arkh 7y agoI disagree. First you calling being blunt abuse. Second your thinking a terrible point of view that some people should be subjected to abuse. Some people should be physically abused. Joshua Milton Blahyi, David Parker Ray, Rodrigo Duterte are good examples. Often the only power you have is your speech. If people are offended when shown how shitty they are, it's on them. Stop coddling real abusers under the cover of professionalism or political correctness.
- chrisseaton 7y ago> Some people should be physically abused. I think that's completely morally wrong. The only exception is if someone else is physically at risk and you are protecting them.
- slumdev 7y agoThis is true, but it comes at the cost of diminished influence for the person doing the assholery.