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If I'm correctly guessing that you might have worked on Parallels, thank you for one of the best programs I've ever used. So many nice delightful touches, like

If I'm correctly guessing that you might have worked on Parallels, thank you for one of the best programs I've ever used. So many nice delightful touches, like their autodetection of USB devices and asking if I want to use them with the VM or the native system. Without Parallels I could never have used a Mac as my main machine. I've since moved back to Windows, but I hope Parallels might make a Windows version. The Windows competitors aren't as good as their Mac versions, and painfully slow compared to Parallels running on my ancient MBP 2012.

jamil7 7y ago
> on my ancient MBP 2012 I still do all my work on one, fast as the day I bought it.
- deleted 7y ago
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- vaxman 7y ago
  Why can't someone slap the XNU api onto Linux and create a runtime system that permits Apple's UX frameworks/libraries to be used by Linux developers (who will create more performant apps that do incredible things while maintaining the look-and-feel of the Macs that we once loved)? As long as we're booting Linux on machines bought at their local mall outlet or online store, I don't see the legal problem. Maybe a new generation of managers at Apple would even cooperate with such a Linux distribution (something like A/UX of yesteryear)?
  - pmjordan 7y ago
    Why can't someone slap the XNU api onto Linux Probably because importing Mach messaging and VM APIs into the Linux kernel, and recreating IOKit and similar from scratch is a pretty major undertaking; the APSL isn't GPL-compatible, so using the existing XNU code and trying to make it fit into the Linux kernel isn't something that could ever be upstreamed. Aside from the fact that Linux's device model doesn't exactly map to IOKit well. Then there are invariably plenty of assumptions that userland makes: launchd is probably assumed to have PID 1; all sorts of stuff like that. Plus of course, there's the question of whether this would be inline with the EULA of Apple's userland… There's always GNUStep if you want to write Cocoa apps in Objective-C on Linux. Somehow I have a feeling the APIs aren't what's been holding back Linux on the desktop.
  - shakna 7y ago
    Darling is a translation layer that does something similar [0]. Development has gone up and down over the years. One of the main pain points is the way Apple adopts, and then discards, a new GUI API every few years. [0] https://www.darlinghq.org/ https://www.darlinghq.org/
- pcdoodle 7y ago
  2011 with a disabled AMD GPU as a daily driver here. CPU passmark at 6000 so why not with a SSD.
prashnts 7y ago
Parallels’ way of handling USB is just perfect. I was trying to install RockBox firmware to my iPod Classic and the easiest solution was to use Windows XP in parallels. That’s when I realised how well it’s implemented! It first asked me if I wanted to attach usb with Windows VM or MacOS, and later I could even make it default. Very good UX. Edit: Windows XP, because I still remember its Product Key. Ha. I probably reinstalled XP in my PC as a kid about a hundred times.
- o_x 7y ago
  Does it start with FCKGW...? ;)
  - prashnts 7y ago
    I think that's one of the several "free" product keys available online. Mine starts with Q3GQT and ends with XPKBW. :D

jamil7 7y ago

> on my ancient MBP 2012 I still do all my work on one, fast as the day I bought it.

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vaxman 7y ago
Why can't someone slap the XNU api onto Linux and create a runtime system that permits Apple's UX frameworks/libraries to be used by Linux developers (who will create more performant apps that do incredible things while maintaining the look-and-feel of the Macs that we once loved)? As long as we're booting Linux on machines bought at their local mall outlet or online store, I don't see the legal problem. Maybe a new generation of managers at Apple would even cooperate with such a Linux distribution (something like A/UX of yesteryear)?
- pmjordan 7y ago
  Why can't someone slap the XNU api onto Linux Probably because importing Mach messaging and VM APIs into the Linux kernel, and recreating IOKit and similar from scratch is a pretty major undertaking; the APSL isn't GPL-compatible, so using the existing XNU code and trying to make it fit into the Linux kernel isn't something that could ever be upstreamed. Aside from the fact that Linux's device model doesn't exactly map to IOKit well. Then there are invariably plenty of assumptions that userland makes: launchd is probably assumed to have PID 1; all sorts of stuff like that. Plus of course, there's the question of whether this would be inline with the EULA of Apple's userland… There's always GNUStep if you want to write Cocoa apps in Objective-C on Linux. Somehow I have a feeling the APIs aren't what's been holding back Linux on the desktop.
- shakna 7y ago
  Darling is a translation layer that does something similar [0]. Development has gone up and down over the years. One of the main pain points is the way Apple adopts, and then discards, a new GUI API every few years. [0] https://www.darlinghq.org/ https://www.darlinghq.org/
pcdoodle 7y ago
2011 with a disabled AMD GPU as a daily driver here. CPU passmark at 6000 so why not with a SSD.

prashnts 7y ago

Parallels’ way of handling USB is just perfect. I was trying to install RockBox firmware to my iPod Classic and the easiest solution was to use Windows XP in parallels. That’s when I realised how well it’s implemented! It first asked me if I wanted to attach usb with Windows VM or MacOS, and later I could even make it default. Very good UX. Edit: Windows XP, because I still remember its Product Key. Ha. I probably reinstalled XP in my PC as a kid about a hundred times.

o_x 7y ago
Does it start with FCKGW...? ;)
- prashnts 7y ago
  I think that's one of the several "free" product keys available online. Mine starts with Q3GQT and ends with XPKBW. :D