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I haven't really dug into them but there are criticisms that the Chinese government ignored the situation in the early stages and suppressed information about i

I haven't really dug into them but there are criticisms that the Chinese government ignored the situation in the early stages and suppressed information about it. Which sounds like typical negatives of an authoritarian government that hinders free expression and isn't democratically accountable. Perfectly valid to criticize that. Now that they're engaged, the WHO is saying they're responding pretty well.

unityByFreedom 7y ago
> the WHO is saying they're responding pretty well. The WHO is captured by China.
DarthGhandi 7y ago
> I haven't really dug into An international collective of doctors and scientists who advise the World Health Organisation said this isn't a these you currently, why exactly do you have any reason to doubt them? Only have to look at the other response here to see how certain types with absolutely no concern for the truth want to dominate this debate, it's just another opportunity for them, nothing else. The WHO has been previously criticised for only declaring emergencies when it involves America or the holiday season. There's published papers on the matter saying so. You can't please all the people with this stuff but the onus is on anyone claiming why this body made up of international experts all in competition with each other suddenly decided to collectively conspire in some sort of bizarre attempt to hide the truth? The scientists advising WHO saying this stuff have far more to lose than the commentators here, people shouldn't lose sight of that very salient fact.
- tim333 7y ago
  The World Health Organisation had not said "this isn't a these you currently" or anything to that effect. They are a scientific body that does not consider it it's remit to comment on Chinese politics. At least some Chinese officials suppressed information in the early days.
  - DarthGhandi 7y ago
    I'm sorry I made a spelling/grammar mistake, please forgive me. Thanks for quoting it. Now which body do you trust more, also which one says it's not a problem and people shouldn't be worried: The Chinese govt or the World Health Organisation? People panicked about this situation and spreading false information are the ones to worry about, not those with the virus.
    - apatters 7y ago
      There's always going to be someone on the Internet saying something terrible and extreme about any topic. I'm not really sure what to say about that other than it's not changing any time soon, and I'm glad I stopped keeping my phone on me 24/7 because now I don't see it as much.
    - tim333 7y ago
      Personally I'm more worried about the virus than any scaremongers. Especially in countries like Indonesia where I am now: >In Indonesia, Terawan Agus Putranto, the health minister, advised citizens to relax and eschew overtime work to avoid the disease, which has killed more than 360 people and infected more than 17,000 others, mostly in China. >“To prevent it is very easy as long as your immunity is good,” Mr. Terawan said. ... >Indonesia has 264 million people, over 2 million tourists from China, but 0 reported cases of coronavirus By the time the idiot finds it's run amok there will be a lot of unnecessary deaths.
      - tim333 7y ago
        update "In Indonesia – it’s unlikely to spread much as it’s very hot and humid." so maybe ok https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTiiquwLa6tT-g/conference-call-coronavirus-expert https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTiiquwLa6tT-g/confere...

unityByFreedom 7y ago

> the WHO is saying they're responding pretty well. The WHO is captured by China.

DarthGhandi 7y ago

> I haven't really dug into An international collective of doctors and scientists who advise the World Health Organisation said this isn't a these you currently, why exactly do you have any reason to doubt them? Only have to look at the other response here to see how certain types with absolutely no concern for the truth want to dominate this debate, it's just another opportunity for them, nothing else. The WHO has been previously criticised for only declaring emergencies when it involves America or the holiday season. There's published papers on the matter saying so. You can't please all the people with this stuff but the onus is on anyone claiming why this body made up of international experts all in competition with each other suddenly decided to collectively conspire in some sort of bizarre attempt to hide the truth? The scientists advising WHO saying this stuff have far more to lose than the commentators here, people shouldn't lose sight of that very salient fact.

tim333 7y ago
The World Health Organisation had not said "this isn't a these you currently" or anything to that effect. They are a scientific body that does not consider it it's remit to comment on Chinese politics. At least some Chinese officials suppressed information in the early days.
- DarthGhandi 7y ago
  I'm sorry I made a spelling/grammar mistake, please forgive me. Thanks for quoting it. Now which body do you trust more, also which one says it's not a problem and people shouldn't be worried: The Chinese govt or the World Health Organisation? People panicked about this situation and spreading false information are the ones to worry about, not those with the virus.
  - apatters 7y ago
    There's always going to be someone on the Internet saying something terrible and extreme about any topic. I'm not really sure what to say about that other than it's not changing any time soon, and I'm glad I stopped keeping my phone on me 24/7 because now I don't see it as much.
  - tim333 7y ago
    Personally I'm more worried about the virus than any scaremongers. Especially in countries like Indonesia where I am now: >In Indonesia, Terawan Agus Putranto, the health minister, advised citizens to relax and eschew overtime work to avoid the disease, which has killed more than 360 people and infected more than 17,000 others, mostly in China. >“To prevent it is very easy as long as your immunity is good,” Mr. Terawan said. ... >Indonesia has 264 million people, over 2 million tourists from China, but 0 reported cases of coronavirus By the time the idiot finds it's run amok there will be a lot of unnecessary deaths.
    - tim333 7y ago
      update "In Indonesia – it’s unlikely to spread much as it’s very hot and humid." so maybe ok https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTiiquwLa6tT-g/conference-call-coronavirus-expert https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTiiquwLa6tT-g/confere...