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We Decided to Leave AWS

20 points by simple-login 7y ago

mcpherrinm 7y ago
You can bring your own IPs to AWS instead of reused Amazon IPs that don't have great reputation. Of course that assumes your reputation is better.
- simple-login 7y ago
  We have studied that option but the price exceeds an early, bootstrapped startup budget unfortunately.
fjni 7y ago
Managing your database yourself because of poor ip reputation experience seems like a bit of an overreaction to me.
- simple-login 7y ago
  Another feature of SimpleLogin is self-hosting and we don’t want to be dependent on a specific cloud. The database does not have high i/o need and we don’t store much data so a self managing a database is doable.
sathyabhat 7y ago
Wonder why they didn’t leverage Amazon SES? SES has API and SMTP options and have infinitely better reputation than EIPs. https://aws.amazon.com/ses/ https://aws.amazon.com/ses/
- crmrc114 7y ago
  Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. This sounds like someone who did not know how to use AWS and trying to treat an EC2 virt like an email server circa 1998. Can someone explain why anyone would want to do a setup like described in the article?
  - simple-login 7y ago
    ses pricing is not sustainable for our pricing model that offers unlimited forwards/replies. We should have pointed this out in the article. Btw we know pretty well aws.
- simple-login 7y ago
  The ses pricing does not match our pricing unfortunately. We do give instructions on how to use SimpleLogin with SES in our doc at https://github.com/simple-login/app/blob/master/docs/ses.md https://github.com/simple-login/app/blob/master/docs/ses.md though.
joana035 7y ago
That is amazing! I hope to see more posts like that. Maybe more people will notice how simple things are outside of the aws realm. Unfortunately more you use, harder to leave aws.
- simple-login 7y ago
  Absolutely! We also feared that it’s going to be hard to scale without all the aws features like rds, load balancer, s3, etc but we discovered better & easier to use tools for each need since we left Aws.
simple-login 7y ago
This version is more complete and contains more technical details on our decision: https://simplelogin.io/blog/we-left-aws/ https://simplelogin.io/blog/we-left-aws/

20 points by simple-login 7y ago

You can bring your own IPs to AWS instead of reused Amazon IPs that don't have great reputation. Of course that assumes your reputation is better.

simple-login 7y ago
We have studied that option but the price exceeds an early, bootstrapped startup budget unfortunately.

fjni 7y ago

Managing your database yourself because of poor ip reputation experience seems like a bit of an overreaction to me.

simple-login 7y ago
Another feature of SimpleLogin is self-hosting and we don’t want to be dependent on a specific cloud. The database does not have high i/o need and we don’t store much data so a self managing a database is doable.

sathyabhat 7y ago

Wonder why they didn’t leverage Amazon SES? SES has API and SMTP options and have infinitely better reputation than EIPs. https://aws.amazon.com/ses/ https://aws.amazon.com/ses/

crmrc114 7y ago
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. This sounds like someone who did not know how to use AWS and trying to treat an EC2 virt like an email server circa 1998. Can someone explain why anyone would want to do a setup like described in the article?
- simple-login 7y ago
  ses pricing is not sustainable for our pricing model that offers unlimited forwards/replies. We should have pointed this out in the article. Btw we know pretty well aws.
simple-login 7y ago
The ses pricing does not match our pricing unfortunately. We do give instructions on how to use SimpleLogin with SES in our doc at https://github.com/simple-login/app/blob/master/docs/ses.md https://github.com/simple-login/app/blob/master/docs/ses.md though.

joana035 7y ago

That is amazing! I hope to see more posts like that. Maybe more people will notice how simple things are outside of the aws realm. Unfortunately more you use, harder to leave aws.

simple-login 7y ago
Absolutely! We also feared that it’s going to be hard to scale without all the aws features like rds, load balancer, s3, etc but we discovered better & easier to use tools for each need since we left Aws.

simple-login 7y ago

This version is more complete and contains more technical details on our decision: https://simplelogin.io/blog/we-left-aws/ https://simplelogin.io/blog/we-left-aws/