Ok if we are going to discus this all over again then it helps to first read the older thread at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2221831 http://news.ycombin

Ok if we are going to discus this all over again then it helps to first read the older thread at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2221831 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2221831