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You're saying this group of "most people" knows what's being sent, that they're exercising informed consent? Surely you aren't hanging this argument on "common

You're saying this group of "most people" knows what's being sent, that they're exercising informed consent? Surely you aren't hanging this argument on "common sense."

briandear 7y ago
You are saying that most people doesn’t? Any polls or data supporting that assertion? Bring data to the discussion. Here’s some: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/27/americans-complicated-feelings-about-social-media-in-an-era-of-privacy-concerns/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/27/americans-c... 91% of Americans feel that they have lost control of their personal data and privacy. The logical conclusion is that at least that many understand what they have gotten themselves into. That would indicate that a majority of people are exercising informed consent, despite the vast majority of Americans feeling that way, they continue to use the gamut of products and services.
jack1243star 7y ago
The sad thing is, they don't know, and they don't care. Like at all.
- mixmastamyk 7y ago
  It's true, until you show them how much data is collected and who is buying and selling the information without their consent. Then a significant portion start to recognize the threat. There's a reason none of these companies mention it.
  - mdhardeman 7y ago
    One thing I've noticed about far too many people in tech is that they all seem to believe that those not in tech are stupid. Many of them are not stupid. On average, half of them are above average. They're just uninformed and busy with their own lives.
- mdhardeman 7y ago
  They don't care. Until you can show them you know how often they're on Grindr and where their tricks live. Or that they got a prescription filled. For Valtrex. What would be helpful -- but that I am adamantly against -- would be tons of data drops, in communities across the nation, of local church leaders and local community leaders.

You're saying this group of "most people" knows what's being sent, that they're exercising informed consent? Surely you aren't hanging this argument on "common sense."

briandear 7y ago

You are saying that most people doesn’t? Any polls or data supporting that assertion? Bring data to the discussion. Here’s some: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/27/americans-complicated-feelings-about-social-media-in-an-era-of-privacy-concerns/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/27/americans-c... 91% of Americans feel that they have lost control of their personal data and privacy. The logical conclusion is that at least that many understand what they have gotten themselves into. That would indicate that a majority of people are exercising informed consent, despite the vast majority of Americans feeling that way, they continue to use the gamut of products and services.

jack1243star 7y ago

The sad thing is, they don't know, and they don't care. Like at all.

mixmastamyk 7y ago
It's true, until you show them how much data is collected and who is buying and selling the information without their consent. Then a significant portion start to recognize the threat. There's a reason none of these companies mention it.
- mdhardeman 7y ago
  One thing I've noticed about far too many people in tech is that they all seem to believe that those not in tech are stupid. Many of them are not stupid. On average, half of them are above average. They're just uninformed and busy with their own lives.
mdhardeman 7y ago
They don't care. Until you can show them you know how often they're on Grindr and where their tricks live. Or that they got a prescription filled. For Valtrex. What would be helpful -- but that I am adamantly against -- would be tons of data drops, in communities across the nation, of local church leaders and local community leaders.