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Boing 737-800 at Istanbul overran runway, impacted wall, broke up

18 points by petschge 7y ago

maxcan 7y ago
"...touched down about abeam taxiways T/F (about 1950 meters/6400 feet past the threshold, about 1000 meters/3300 feet before the runway end)" Before everyone jumps on Boeing, unless some additional news breaks about a mechanical failure this is pilot error pure and simple. If you're landing 2/3rds down the runway, you should be initiating a go around well before the wheels hit the ground. It may come out that there was a mechanical failure which prevented go-around, in which case I'll eat my words. If not, the pilots acted grossly irresponsibly.
3327 7y ago
This is the Second runway excursion in two months, same airline, same airport, similar conditions. The prior one was less severe and never made it to international press.
thr0w__4w4y 7y ago
What's a Boing anyway?
c0restraint 7y ago
Looking at the video, I'm honestly surprised there's only one death. The fuselage is completely sheared off. I really hope all those people recovery quickly and fully!
forkexec 7y ago
I'm waiting for blancolirio, vasaviation and mentourpilot, but the big takeaway: the NG fuselage broke up, caught on fire and killed a passenger. A contributing factor is the widely-unknown substandard quality of the critical structural elements made by Boeing's best-buddies at Ducommun that Boeing management ordered installed even though they were grossly out of spec by being crudely hand-made instead of CNCed. This goes all the way back to before 2010. 737 classic was a much stronger aircraft because it was designed, manufactured and maintained correctly. This isn't an isolated instance of an NG breaking up on hard landings and runway overruns. - Turkish Airlines 1951 - AIRES 8250 - Air Niugini 73 - Caribbean Airlines 523 - American Airlines 331 This is what happens with "self-regulation," unchecked greed and corruption, and prevalence of faulty beliefs like "all gubberment bad."
upofadown 7y ago
They were attempting to land with a quartering tail wind. The tower might of been a bit slow with the runway change. The pilots were advised of the wind direction and speed so it would of been their call in the end.

18 points by petschge 7y ago

"...touched down about abeam taxiways T/F (about 1950 meters/6400 feet past the threshold, about 1000 meters/3300 feet before the runway end)" Before everyone jumps on Boeing, unless some additional news breaks about a mechanical failure this is pilot error pure and simple. If you're landing 2/3rds down the runway, you should be initiating a go around well before the wheels hit the ground. It may come out that there was a mechanical failure which prevented go-around, in which case I'll eat my words. If not, the pilots acted grossly irresponsibly.

3327 7y ago

This is the Second runway excursion in two months, same airline, same airport, similar conditions. The prior one was less severe and never made it to international press.

thr0w__4w4y 7y ago

What's a Boing anyway?

c0restraint 7y ago

Looking at the video, I'm honestly surprised there's only one death. The fuselage is completely sheared off. I really hope all those people recovery quickly and fully!

forkexec 7y ago

I'm waiting for blancolirio, vasaviation and mentourpilot, but the big takeaway: the NG fuselage broke up, caught on fire and killed a passenger. A contributing factor is the widely-unknown substandard quality of the critical structural elements made by Boeing's best-buddies at Ducommun that Boeing management ordered installed even though they were grossly out of spec by being crudely hand-made instead of CNCed. This goes all the way back to before 2010. 737 classic was a much stronger aircraft because it was designed, manufactured and maintained correctly. This isn't an isolated instance of an NG breaking up on hard landings and runway overruns. - Turkish Airlines 1951 - AIRES 8250 - Air Niugini 73 - Caribbean Airlines 523 - American Airlines 331 This is what happens with "self-regulation," unchecked greed and corruption, and prevalence of faulty beliefs like "all gubberment bad."

upofadown 7y ago

They were attempting to land with a quartering tail wind. The tower might of been a bit slow with the runway change. The pilots were advised of the wind direction and speed so it would of been their call in the end.