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So you had good people that you wanted to get back? Great. A lot of us employ people who are just average and cannot afford to pay them multiple thousands while

So you had good people that you wanted to get back? Great. A lot of us employ people who are just average and cannot afford to pay them multiple thousands while they are on leave, paying someone else to cover them, and then they could always decide to leave anyway.

durandal1 7y ago
If you can't afford an employee going on paternity/maternity leave, you have an unsustainable business.
- legostormtroopr 7y ago
  Or you have a small business. Not every company is a 10,000 headcount multinational. Over 90% of small business employ fewer than 20 people and small businesses make up 30% of the economy. Realistically, 1 person missing from a small business can mean 10% of their workforce is gone - and due to the size of the company they may not have people to cover the missing staff.
  - growse 7y ago
    You don't need to have 10,000 people working for you to be able to afford to hire cover for when people going on parental leave. 10 people or 10,000 people, if you can't afford your staff going on parental leave / long term sick / vacation, you don't have a sustainable business.
    - legostormtroopr 7y ago
      > if you can't afford your staff going on parental leave / long term sick, you don't have a sustainable business You've never run a startup or small business. At the beginning margins can be razor thin, and unplanned or extended leave can have a huge impact.
      - dragonsngoblins 7y ago
        Parental leave shouldn't be unplanned though, there should be several months of notice surely
      - growse 7y ago
        There's plenty of small business owners who are perfectly capable of managing the risk of losing staff for whatever reason without it sinking the company. Many business run at a big loss when starting up, never mind razor thin margins. The ones that survive manage their investors, debts, cashflow and staff risk properly. If you run a business on the assumption that you're going to have all your current employees working for you continuously for the foreseeable future, you're going to have a bad time.
  - bashinator 7y ago
    If small businesses in general can't afford an employee going on [mp]aternity leave, that seems like an argument for socializing the cost.
seszett 7y ago
The company doesn't pay employees while they are on leave, social security (or some equivalent) does.

durandal1 7y ago

If you can't afford an employee going on paternity/maternity leave, you have an unsustainable business.

legostormtroopr 7y ago
Or you have a small business. Not every company is a 10,000 headcount multinational. Over 90% of small business employ fewer than 20 people and small businesses make up 30% of the economy. Realistically, 1 person missing from a small business can mean 10% of their workforce is gone - and due to the size of the company they may not have people to cover the missing staff.
- growse 7y ago
  You don't need to have 10,000 people working for you to be able to afford to hire cover for when people going on parental leave. 10 people or 10,000 people, if you can't afford your staff going on parental leave / long term sick / vacation, you don't have a sustainable business.
  - legostormtroopr 7y ago
    > if you can't afford your staff going on parental leave / long term sick, you don't have a sustainable business You've never run a startup or small business. At the beginning margins can be razor thin, and unplanned or extended leave can have a huge impact.
    - dragonsngoblins 7y ago
      Parental leave shouldn't be unplanned though, there should be several months of notice surely
    - growse 7y ago
      There's plenty of small business owners who are perfectly capable of managing the risk of losing staff for whatever reason without it sinking the company. Many business run at a big loss when starting up, never mind razor thin margins. The ones that survive manage their investors, debts, cashflow and staff risk properly. If you run a business on the assumption that you're going to have all your current employees working for you continuously for the foreseeable future, you're going to have a bad time.
- bashinator 7y ago
  If small businesses in general can't afford an employee going on [mp]aternity leave, that seems like an argument for socializing the cost.

seszett 7y ago

The company doesn't pay employees while they are on leave, social security (or some equivalent) does.