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from Matt Karp on twitter: "Sanders leads the Iowa popular vote, but an unprecedented 40+hr delay lets another candidate, who leads only by a metric so arcane

from Matt Karp on twitter: "Sanders leads the Iowa popular vote, but an unprecedented 40+hr delay lets another candidate, who leads only by a metric so arcane experts can barely explain it, to claim “victory” & media spotlight" Are you telling me this is acceptable?

tptacek 7y ago
I'm telling you that when there are people on these threads that actually have firsthand knowledge of the subject, and all you've got are citations to Twitter and Matt Stoller, you should ask more questions and make fewer sweeping statements. Thankfully, this got flagged off the front page, and there's little point in continuing to argue it.
- sixQuarks 7y ago
  How does that poster have first hand knowledge of what’s going on here? He doesn’t know the inner workings. New info came out that all 177 precincts have reported since yesterday, yet they keep showing the 65-72% that makes it so Pete is winning. If it turns out Bernie actually won, there’s definitely shady stuff going on
  - tptacek 7y ago
    Look: I don't trust any of your premises, and you're obviously sold on them and disinclined to trust any of mine. This isn't a productive conversation. You asked me a direct question: "Are you telling me this is acceptable?". My answer is "NaN". "Parse error". "Homer withdrawing into the hedge". I'm not inclined to have a partisan political argument on HN, and you shouldn't be either.
jshaqaw 7y ago
There are significantly fewer people voting in the Iowa democratic caucus than who live within 10 blocks up or down from me in NYC. Does it matter who got 50 more votes than another candidate? The idea that this tiny number of voters who apparently demand that each candidate personally bake them breakfast determines the fate of our nation is the unacceptable. Have one primary in every state the same day and end this farce.

tptacek 7y ago

I'm telling you that when there are people on these threads that actually have firsthand knowledge of the subject, and all you've got are citations to Twitter and Matt Stoller, you should ask more questions and make fewer sweeping statements. Thankfully, this got flagged off the front page, and there's little point in continuing to argue it.

sixQuarks 7y ago
How does that poster have first hand knowledge of what’s going on here? He doesn’t know the inner workings. New info came out that all 177 precincts have reported since yesterday, yet they keep showing the 65-72% that makes it so Pete is winning. If it turns out Bernie actually won, there’s definitely shady stuff going on
- tptacek 7y ago
  Look: I don't trust any of your premises, and you're obviously sold on them and disinclined to trust any of mine. This isn't a productive conversation. You asked me a direct question: "Are you telling me this is acceptable?". My answer is "NaN". "Parse error". "Homer withdrawing into the hedge". I'm not inclined to have a partisan political argument on HN, and you shouldn't be either.

jshaqaw 7y ago

There are significantly fewer people voting in the Iowa democratic caucus than who live within 10 blocks up or down from me in NYC. Does it matter who got 50 more votes than another candidate? The idea that this tiny number of voters who apparently demand that each candidate personally bake them breakfast determines the fate of our nation is the unacceptable. Have one primary in every state the same day and end this farce.