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But... we are doing this. The President brought it up during the State of the Union. > The Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) requires large organizations to

But... we are doing this. The President brought it up during the State of the Union. > The Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) requires large organizations to offer employees up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for a new child, sick relative or their own illness. Although a growing number of states have passed or are considering paid family leave laws, there is no nationwide equivalent. https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/employment-law/pages/trump-approves-paid-parental-leave-for-federal-workers.aspx https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/...

lotsofpulp 7y ago
Yes, I mean paid parental leave, not just parental leave. FMLA doesn't even apply to employers with less than 50 people. There's a handful of states that offer paid parental leave, and even those have many caveats. It's 2020, I bet it will be at least another 4 to 6 years before we have a federal law, and even that will be a couple decades behind other progressive countries.
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- s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
  > under this bill, 2.1 million civilian federal workers also will be able to take paid leave to care for a new baby after birth, adoption or the start of foster care Currently it's PAID leave for federal workers only, but it's a start. Contact your senator and tell them it's important to you.
  - lotsofpulp 7y ago
    Yes, I have. But time and time again, my fellow voters (and non voters) have shown that they don't quite care as much about things like paid parental leave as much as they do taxes, gun rights, national "security" and military engagements, restricting abortion rights etc.
    - s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
      I care about all of those things and parental leave. I doubt you can group all those people together, and remember, you don't know them. You listed a lot of right issues to imply that the left is the only side fighting for it, which is not true.
      - lotsofpulp 7y ago
        I listed those things because those are the things I see being prominently debated. Also, all of the states with paid parental leave, and other laws good for the general public such as assisted suicide and marijuana legalization, are in Democrat states, for what it’s worth. But at the end of the day, the root obstacle is voter non participation from those that would benefit the most, and voters who absolutely will not accept higher taxes, especially for any type of wealth redistribution such as paid parental leave, healthcare, education, etc.
resolaibohp 7y ago
To even use FMLA you must have worked for the employer for at least a year, at least one of the major restrictions. For example if you have your baby a couple days before your 1 year work anniversary and your employer does not offer parental leave, you are pretty much forced to quit just to be able to take care of your baby for 3 months. FMLA is not the solution for everyone.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
  That's a feature not a bug, otherwise you'd have people gaming the system. I'd say if you haven't worked a year, you don't deserve a year off, pregnancy or not. Plan your life accordingly and take responsibility.
  - triceratops 7y ago
    Cool so if you get laid off but find a new job immediately, you still have to put off babymaking plans?

lotsofpulp 7y ago

Yes, I mean paid parental leave, not just parental leave. FMLA doesn't even apply to employers with less than 50 people. There's a handful of states that offer paid parental leave, and even those have many caveats. It's 2020, I bet it will be at least another 4 to 6 years before we have a federal law, and even that will be a couple decades behind other progressive countries.

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s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
> under this bill, 2.1 million civilian federal workers also will be able to take paid leave to care for a new baby after birth, adoption or the start of foster care Currently it's PAID leave for federal workers only, but it's a start. Contact your senator and tell them it's important to you.
- lotsofpulp 7y ago
  Yes, I have. But time and time again, my fellow voters (and non voters) have shown that they don't quite care as much about things like paid parental leave as much as they do taxes, gun rights, national "security" and military engagements, restricting abortion rights etc.
  - s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
    I care about all of those things and parental leave. I doubt you can group all those people together, and remember, you don't know them. You listed a lot of right issues to imply that the left is the only side fighting for it, which is not true.
    - lotsofpulp 7y ago
      I listed those things because those are the things I see being prominently debated. Also, all of the states with paid parental leave, and other laws good for the general public such as assisted suicide and marijuana legalization, are in Democrat states, for what it’s worth. But at the end of the day, the root obstacle is voter non participation from those that would benefit the most, and voters who absolutely will not accept higher taxes, especially for any type of wealth redistribution such as paid parental leave, healthcare, education, etc.

resolaibohp 7y ago

To even use FMLA you must have worked for the employer for at least a year, at least one of the major restrictions. For example if you have your baby a couple days before your 1 year work anniversary and your employer does not offer parental leave, you are pretty much forced to quit just to be able to take care of your baby for 3 months. FMLA is not the solution for everyone.

s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
That's a feature not a bug, otherwise you'd have people gaming the system. I'd say if you haven't worked a year, you don't deserve a year off, pregnancy or not. Plan your life accordingly and take responsibility.
- triceratops 7y ago
  Cool so if you get laid off but find a new job immediately, you still have to put off babymaking plans?