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All the candidates donated, not just Buttigieg. It was a joint venture between all of the primary candidates in Iowa.

claudeganon 7y ago
This isn’t true. The Sanders campaign never gave anything to Shadow or ACRONYM. From the reporting I’ve seen, Buttigeig was the largest purchaser of their services, with Biden as a distant second. https://www.wsj.com/articles/iowa-caucus-results-delayed-by-apparent-app-issue-11580801699 https://www.wsj.com/articles/iowa-caucus-results-delayed-by-... EDIT: Since this is apparently a “controversial” statement, here is the FEC data proving this is entirely true: https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?data_type=processed&recipient_name=Shadow+Inc&two_year_transaction_period=2020 https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?data_type=processed&...
- dqv 7y ago
  Thanks for this. We're flagged off now so no one can see it unfortunately.
- mzs 7y ago
  I mean, who knows, you have to be a lot more sophisticated to grok the FEC db, for example here's over a half million to AmEx from the Bernie camp, for what? https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201912199166621206 https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201912199166621206 Here's almost half a million to consultants from a big group of donors. https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201904159146174550 https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201904159146174550 There's just so many payments and transfers to/from Senate and Presidential campaign and big donors that just go opaque as without knowing what the recipient really did with that money for every candidate that takes donations, this is a very hard problem to answer without a serious investigation by a team of journalists and lawyers.
  - claudeganon 7y ago
    So your argument is that there are somewhere secret payments from the Sanders campaign to ACRONYM, a related entity of PACRONYM, an anti-Sanders dark money group and their “tech” company, Shadow? My comment was in response to someone claiming that all the campaigns in Iowa had funded both groups. There is no evidence of that.
dqv 7y ago
I'd love to see the data on this. The FEC data is a little confusing to browse.

This isn’t true. The Sanders campaign never gave anything to Shadow or ACRONYM. From the reporting I’ve seen, Buttigeig was the largest purchaser of their services, with Biden as a distant second. https://www.wsj.com/articles/iowa-caucus-results-delayed-by-apparent-app-issue-11580801699 https://www.wsj.com/articles/iowa-caucus-results-delayed-by-... EDIT: Since this is apparently a “controversial” statement, here is the FEC data proving this is entirely true: https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?data_type=processed&recipient_name=Shadow+Inc&two_year_transaction_period=2020 https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?data_type=processed&...

dqv 7y ago
Thanks for this. We're flagged off now so no one can see it unfortunately.
mzs 7y ago
I mean, who knows, you have to be a lot more sophisticated to grok the FEC db, for example here's over a half million to AmEx from the Bernie camp, for what? https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201912199166621206 https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201912199166621206 Here's almost half a million to consultants from a big group of donors. https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201904159146174550 https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201904159146174550 There's just so many payments and transfers to/from Senate and Presidential campaign and big donors that just go opaque as without knowing what the recipient really did with that money for every candidate that takes donations, this is a very hard problem to answer without a serious investigation by a team of journalists and lawyers.
- claudeganon 7y ago
  So your argument is that there are somewhere secret payments from the Sanders campaign to ACRONYM, a related entity of PACRONYM, an anti-Sanders dark money group and their “tech” company, Shadow? My comment was in response to someone claiming that all the campaigns in Iowa had funded both groups. There is no evidence of that.

dqv 7y ago

I'd love to see the data on this. The FEC data is a little confusing to browse.