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ISP's all over the valley did this in the 80's and early 90's as a way of supporting multiuser systems .. We should never forget that at the root of containeri

ISP's all over the valley did this in the 80's and early 90's as a way of supporting multiuser systems .. We should never forget that at the root of containerization is a desire to keep everyones shit sorted. That's been a Unix thing forever. EDIT: "Gives devices like that a second youth." Hell yeah, long live the OP!

lukevp 7y ago
Anyone interested in buying a first batch OP? I ordered it early in the process and then didn’t end up using it much
- somesortofsystm 7y ago
  Still got my two first-batch OP's, keeping an eye on the Pyra situation, but oh .. what a ride its been ..
  - tluyben2 7y ago
    Yeah, waiting for the Pyra as well. I got to test the Gemini which was crap (imho), the Pocket 1 (excellent machine imho), Pocket 2 (no nub and thus, quite shit; worse battery life too). I only bought the Pocket 1 because I liked it so much when testing, but the OpenPandora is still really one of my favorite machines for one the go hacking because I can just hold it in my hands instead of having to put it down on a surface.
    - somesortofsystm 7y ago
      hehe, yeah .. the Pocket1 is my current favourite handheld, there's just nothing quite like it .. plus, paired with a couple of iControlPad's, its kind of badass. Been keeping an eye on GPD's other thingies, but I'm just jaded now. I just want a revised version of the Pocket1 that doesn't suck.. totally with you on the track-pointer.
- tluyben2 7y ago
  Could do: drop me a mail; in profile.
dreamcompiler 7y ago
> We should never forget that at the root of containerization is a desire to keep everyones shit sorted. That's been a Unix thing forever. That's literally the point of operating systems: To allow many people to share the resources of one machine without being able to interfere with each other. Modern containers and VMs are just reinventing operating systems, and unfortunately they're doing it on top of existing operating systems rather than building -- you know -- a better operating system.
- zanderwohl 7y ago
  I have been interested in an OS that would better implement virtualization and containers better, "closer to the hardware." I know most users aren't terribly interested in that sort of thing, but I think a lot of hacker-types would enjoy easily sorting projects into different areas. How nice would it be to easily spin up a couple different machines to test a server-client relationship on the same machine, without a handful of slow VMs? I feel I don't know enough to see the issues with an approach like that, or know why it's not already mainstream.
  - celticmusic 7y ago
    it's known as a "bare metal hypervisor" and is the most commonly used hypervisor. If you look into things like vmware ESXi you'll see it in action. https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html
    - zanderwohl 7y ago
      Thanks for the link! Looks to be a little steep learning cliff, but I'll see what I can teach myself.

lukevp 7y ago

Anyone interested in buying a first batch OP? I ordered it early in the process and then didn’t end up using it much

somesortofsystm 7y ago
Still got my two first-batch OP's, keeping an eye on the Pyra situation, but oh .. what a ride its been ..
- tluyben2 7y ago
  Yeah, waiting for the Pyra as well. I got to test the Gemini which was crap (imho), the Pocket 1 (excellent machine imho), Pocket 2 (no nub and thus, quite shit; worse battery life too). I only bought the Pocket 1 because I liked it so much when testing, but the OpenPandora is still really one of my favorite machines for one the go hacking because I can just hold it in my hands instead of having to put it down on a surface.
  - somesortofsystm 7y ago
    hehe, yeah .. the Pocket1 is my current favourite handheld, there's just nothing quite like it .. plus, paired with a couple of iControlPad's, its kind of badass. Been keeping an eye on GPD's other thingies, but I'm just jaded now. I just want a revised version of the Pocket1 that doesn't suck.. totally with you on the track-pointer.
tluyben2 7y ago
Could do: drop me a mail; in profile.

dreamcompiler 7y ago

> We should never forget that at the root of containerization is a desire to keep everyones shit sorted. That's been a Unix thing forever. That's literally the point of operating systems: To allow many people to share the resources of one machine without being able to interfere with each other. Modern containers and VMs are just reinventing operating systems, and unfortunately they're doing it on top of existing operating systems rather than building -- you know -- a better operating system.

zanderwohl 7y ago
I have been interested in an OS that would better implement virtualization and containers better, "closer to the hardware." I know most users aren't terribly interested in that sort of thing, but I think a lot of hacker-types would enjoy easily sorting projects into different areas. How nice would it be to easily spin up a couple different machines to test a server-client relationship on the same machine, without a handful of slow VMs? I feel I don't know enough to see the issues with an approach like that, or know why it's not already mainstream.
- celticmusic 7y ago
  it's known as a "bare metal hypervisor" and is the most commonly used hypervisor. If you look into things like vmware ESXi you'll see it in action. https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html
  - zanderwohl 7y ago
    Thanks for the link! Looks to be a little steep learning cliff, but I'll see what I can teach myself.