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>My point is that the PR statements that Tesla releases don't match the financials. It's easy to announce that a factory is being built or a new car is going in

>My point is that the PR statements that Tesla releases don't match the financials. It's easy to announce that a factory is being built or a new car is going into production, but we should be extremely skeptical of these statements when they aren't backed up by audited financial information. Oh dear, are you saying that Tesla did not actually recently open a new factory in Shanghai, or start a new one outside Berlin? In spite of all the news stories and announcements by the governments in each of the countries. And ditto it has not been developing the Y in spite of all the reported sightings? Or that the new version of the solar roof did not go into production, in spite of all the reviews of it, and all the people who have said they have ordered one? It is all an extremely elaborate hoax? And even when their latest quarterly report discusses all this? You know, when someone is so far gone into conspiracy theories as you appear to be, there is no reasoning them.

xkjkls 7y ago
How many of these things exist currently? As far as I know I’ve only seen a total of 10 deliveries from the Chinese factory, there has not been a single Model Y sold to the public yet, the German factory hasn’t even broken ground, and the Solar Roof, despite being in production for three and a half years still hasn’t had even a thousand customers install yet. Companies exaggerate in their PR statements. It’s very easy to claim a factory is complete but not have meaningful production. It’s very easy to claim that the Model Y is just around the corner. It’s apparently very easy to bilk investors that solar roofs are beyond a concept phase for three plus years. That doesn’t mean they are. It’s not a conspiracy theory to want a company to produce audited financials that show that they have done the complete investment in all of these projects and they aren’t vaporware.

xkjkls 7y ago

How many of these things exist currently? As far as I know I’ve only seen a total of 10 deliveries from the Chinese factory, there has not been a single Model Y sold to the public yet, the German factory hasn’t even broken ground, and the Solar Roof, despite being in production for three and a half years still hasn’t had even a thousand customers install yet. Companies exaggerate in their PR statements. It’s very easy to claim a factory is complete but not have meaningful production. It’s very easy to claim that the Model Y is just around the corner. It’s apparently very easy to bilk investors that solar roofs are beyond a concept phase for three plus years. That doesn’t mean they are. It’s not a conspiracy theory to want a company to produce audited financials that show that they have done the complete investment in all of these projects and they aren’t vaporware.