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Apple Pro Display XDR Review

18 points by dmitrygr 7y ago

colejohnson66 7y ago
I’m impressed by the color gamut coverage of the XDR. However: > The entire monitor is controlled via macOS, which means that even if you wanted to hook up a non-Apple laptop or desktop capable of outputting video through USB Type-C, you couldn't. It won't turn on in the first place. (Trust us: We tried.) You can achieve full functionality with Windows, but you'll have to be running it on a Mac in Boot Camp. This seems unacceptable. Instead of not running at the full 6k resolution (like the 5k one does because DP, at the time, only supported 4k over one cable), they just won’t let it work? There has to be some technical reason besides malice.
- rubbingalcohol 7y ago
  The fact that Apple went to the trouble to develop a Windows driver for the Pro Display XDR but lock it down so it only works on Macs running Boot Camp - there is no justification for that other than malice.
  - colejohnson66 7y ago
    Did they write a driver for Windows? The review wasn’t clear. They just said it only worked on Windows if you’re running Bootcamp. That could easily mean the Mac (computer) does all the “driver” work, not necessarily macOS (the OS). In which case, that would explain why it doesn’t work on any computer other than a Mac.
    - Teever 7y ago
      I will admit that I know very little about monitors or their drivers but it wouldn't surprise me that such a sophisticated piece of hardware requires a driver.
  - philistine 7y ago
    That all their current hardware is supported on Windows 10, and has been since the release of Windows 10? That's not malice, that's following your plan.
mbroncano 7y ago
> But outside of those complaints, the Pro Display XDR stuns in every other metric it competes in, earning our Editors' Choice.
AdamJacobMuller 7y ago
Title should be updated: > Apple Pro Display XDR Review > please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.
- dmitrygr 7y ago
  But that is precisely the interesting point from the review!
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    Extracting what you find interesting is, exactly, editorializing.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - dang 7y ago
    If you want to say what you think is important about a story, please do so via a comment in the thread. Then your view will be on a level playing field with others'. Don't use the title field to do it; that's editorializing, and breaks the site guidelines, as AdamJacobMuller pointed out. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22level%20playing%20field%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... (Submitted title was "Apple Pro Display XDR does not support non-mac computers".)
    - AdamJacobMuller 7y ago
      Thank you.
  - AdamJacobMuller 7y ago
    Perhaps for you. Personally, I was disappointed that they didn't think it would work well as a cheese grater. Definitely not buying one now.
ngcc_hk 7y ago
They amend it and hence the click bait title might be too click bait “ [Editors' Note: We tweaked this review on Feb. 4, 2020, to clarify compatibility details around the Pro Display XDR with Windows, Blackmagic hardware, and Linux, as well as regarding details on the LED lighting technology used.]” Or a bit more detail in the article “ It bears mentioning that because the XDR works only with Apple devices except in some limited scenarios (according to Apple, you can work with the XDR outside macOS in an SDI workflow via the Blackmagic SDI to DP Teranex box, as well as in some Linux scenarios), we had to run a workaround to get CalMAN working correctly,”

18 points by dmitrygr 7y ago

I’m impressed by the color gamut coverage of the XDR. However: > The entire monitor is controlled via macOS, which means that even if you wanted to hook up a non-Apple laptop or desktop capable of outputting video through USB Type-C, you couldn't. It won't turn on in the first place. (Trust us: We tried.) You can achieve full functionality with Windows, but you'll have to be running it on a Mac in Boot Camp. This seems unacceptable. Instead of not running at the full 6k resolution (like the 5k one does because DP, at the time, only supported 4k over one cable), they just won’t let it work? There has to be some technical reason besides malice.

rubbingalcohol 7y ago
The fact that Apple went to the trouble to develop a Windows driver for the Pro Display XDR but lock it down so it only works on Macs running Boot Camp - there is no justification for that other than malice.
- colejohnson66 7y ago
  Did they write a driver for Windows? The review wasn’t clear. They just said it only worked on Windows if you’re running Bootcamp. That could easily mean the Mac (computer) does all the “driver” work, not necessarily macOS (the OS). In which case, that would explain why it doesn’t work on any computer other than a Mac.
  - Teever 7y ago
    I will admit that I know very little about monitors or their drivers but it wouldn't surprise me that such a sophisticated piece of hardware requires a driver.
- philistine 7y ago
  That all their current hardware is supported on Windows 10, and has been since the release of Windows 10? That's not malice, that's following your plan.

mbroncano 7y ago

> But outside of those complaints, the Pro Display XDR stuns in every other metric it competes in, earning our Editors' Choice.

AdamJacobMuller 7y ago

Title should be updated: > Apple Pro Display XDR Review > please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

dmitrygr 7y ago
But that is precisely the interesting point from the review!
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  Extracting what you find interesting is, exactly, editorializing.
- deleted 7y ago
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- dang 7y ago
  If you want to say what you think is important about a story, please do so via a comment in the thread. Then your view will be on a level playing field with others'. Don't use the title field to do it; that's editorializing, and breaks the site guidelines, as AdamJacobMuller pointed out. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22level%20playing%20field%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... (Submitted title was "Apple Pro Display XDR does not support non-mac computers".)
  - AdamJacobMuller 7y ago
    Thank you.
- AdamJacobMuller 7y ago
  Perhaps for you. Personally, I was disappointed that they didn't think it would work well as a cheese grater. Definitely not buying one now.

ngcc_hk 7y ago

They amend it and hence the click bait title might be too click bait “ [Editors' Note: We tweaked this review on Feb. 4, 2020, to clarify compatibility details around the Pro Display XDR with Windows, Blackmagic hardware, and Linux, as well as regarding details on the LED lighting technology used.]” Or a bit more detail in the article “ It bears mentioning that because the XDR works only with Apple devices except in some limited scenarios (according to Apple, you can work with the XDR outside macOS in an SDI workflow via the Blackmagic SDI to DP Teranex box, as well as in some Linux scenarios), we had to run a workaround to get CalMAN working correctly,”