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I am a big Bernie Sanders supporter and am always eager to put on my tinfoil hat. But I have to agree with you. The owner of Shadow's parent company has close

I am a big Bernie Sanders supporter and am always eager to put on my tinfoil hat. But I have to agree with you. The owner of Shadow's parent company has close ties to the Hillary campaign, a lot of the Shadow employees worked for the Obama campaign, Hillary campaign, and for the DNC. The scandal here is a bunch of noobs got an extremely important contract through cronyism, and they bungled it horribly.

derision 7y ago
I'd surprised you're not more critical of Clinton and her cronies as a Bernie supporter given they abused superdelegates to award Hillary the nomination over Bernie in 2016
- honkycat 7y ago
  Oh believe me, I have plenty of venom for the DNC. As far as I am concerned they stole the nomination. The DNC was biased against Bernie Sanders and they ratf*ed him every chance they had. Bernie had staff at most of the caucus locations and they kept their own independent tally to ensure there was no funny business. The bias was so obvious. It damaged Hillary's campaign. I was so disgusted I was tempted to vote for Trump ( I didn't! ), and I am pretty sure a LOT of people tuned out after the circus was over, and didn't bother to vote in the election. It was so obvious the head of the DNC had to step down in shame. And not to say the shadow bungle was not damaging. It robbed the candidate who won from being able to deliver a victory speech. Instead... everyone delivered a victory speech just in case xD
  - derision 7y ago
    Yeah I have a similar story. I was a Bernie supporter but when all that went down I started paying attention to Trump and found out I actually agreed with much of what he was running on
paulgb 7y ago
The reports I've seen have the app budget as $60-70k, which seems super low budget for how important it was. If this is cronyism (and not just low bidding), they didn't do a very good job of it. https://www.thestreet.com/politics/acronym-shadow-iowa-caucus-democrats https://www.thestreet.com/politics/acronym-shadow-iowa-caucu...
- honkycat 7y ago
  I saw the same thing and I had the same thought: Wow that is low. My suspicion: The company is all designers and product managers, and they shipped it overseas to the lowest bidder. That is unconfirmed, though.
- Ataraxy 7y ago
  It's funny because I'd bet most of the people that know how to program around here could write a similar app (and likely a betterone at that) in a matter of hours if they were so inclined.
  - russfink 7y ago
    The difference being that you didn't win the contract.
    - Ataraxy 7y ago
      That's pretty immaterial. I was just pointing towards the fact that the simplistic nature of the application in the first place only serves to further highlight the incompetence required for such a catastrophic failure.
      - russfink 7y ago
        Got it. My comment was saying, wryly, the amount of thought you put in just now was probably the maximal level of project design and thinking they did.

derision 7y ago

I'd surprised you're not more critical of Clinton and her cronies as a Bernie supporter given they abused superdelegates to award Hillary the nomination over Bernie in 2016

honkycat 7y ago
Oh believe me, I have plenty of venom for the DNC. As far as I am concerned they stole the nomination. The DNC was biased against Bernie Sanders and they ratf*ed him every chance they had. Bernie had staff at most of the caucus locations and they kept their own independent tally to ensure there was no funny business. The bias was so obvious. It damaged Hillary's campaign. I was so disgusted I was tempted to vote for Trump ( I didn't! ), and I am pretty sure a LOT of people tuned out after the circus was over, and didn't bother to vote in the election. It was so obvious the head of the DNC had to step down in shame. And not to say the shadow bungle was not damaging. It robbed the candidate who won from being able to deliver a victory speech. Instead... everyone delivered a victory speech just in case xD
- derision 7y ago
  Yeah I have a similar story. I was a Bernie supporter but when all that went down I started paying attention to Trump and found out I actually agreed with much of what he was running on

paulgb 7y ago

The reports I've seen have the app budget as $60-70k, which seems super low budget for how important it was. If this is cronyism (and not just low bidding), they didn't do a very good job of it. https://www.thestreet.com/politics/acronym-shadow-iowa-caucus-democrats https://www.thestreet.com/politics/acronym-shadow-iowa-caucu...

honkycat 7y ago
I saw the same thing and I had the same thought: Wow that is low. My suspicion: The company is all designers and product managers, and they shipped it overseas to the lowest bidder. That is unconfirmed, though.
Ataraxy 7y ago
It's funny because I'd bet most of the people that know how to program around here could write a similar app (and likely a betterone at that) in a matter of hours if they were so inclined.
- russfink 7y ago
  The difference being that you didn't win the contract.
  - Ataraxy 7y ago
    That's pretty immaterial. I was just pointing towards the fact that the simplistic nature of the application in the first place only serves to further highlight the incompetence required for such a catastrophic failure.
    - russfink 7y ago
      Got it. My comment was saying, wryly, the amount of thought you put in just now was probably the maximal level of project design and thinking they did.