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Too soon, my friend

by glouwbug 7y ago

Too soon, my friend

WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
To be honest, I would pay good money for a simulator that could have scenarios for common Air Disaster episodes.
- andrewmunsell 7y ago
  FSX had a couple missions with scenarios like this. "Limited Options" (see: https://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=FSX_Default_Missions https://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=FSX_Default...) simulated a dual-engine failure on a 737 over the ocean, which required a glide to one of a couple small islands near the Maldives. Similarly, I enjoyed a mission that required landing a 747 in Singapore during a monsoon. I'm really looking forward to FS2020 and what it'll look like to do the same thing with the graphics enhancements and new weather simulations.
  - skeeterbug 7y ago
    I loved both of those missions! The Singapore mission is so satisfying when flying ILS and then coming out of the clouds right in front of the runway.
    - andrewmunsell 7y ago
      I wish ATC/your copilot was as interactive in free flight as it was during the Singapore approach. It made the missions feel much more real when you have some feedback other than text scrolling by in a window.
      - mrguyorama 7y ago
        Many paid and free mods existed to do exactly that. There was even a $20 mod that turned FSX into an airline tycoon game where you purchased aircraft, ran flights, and dealt with emergencies and maintenance of those aircraft
- Tepix 7y ago
  That's in rather poor taste unless you want to use it to learn how to prevent such catastrophes. You wouldn't need to completely replicate a real scenario for that.
  - WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
    Yeah, I bet you if this was available, we could learn more from past accidents.
- ChicagoBoy11 7y ago
  You're in luck -- that exists today!!!! With the combination of a professional P3D license, weather add-ons, and quality add-on aircraft from companies like PMDG, you really can recreate a lot of those scenarios with exceptional detail. Throw in a high-end VR headset and you can really feel like you are there! Here's an example of me playing around at home ignoring a windshear alert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04FeelpjzvE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04FeelpjzvE
  - duncancarroll 7y ago
    Wow, that's pretty cool. Does P3D have native support for VR or are you hacking it in somehow?
    - silicon_wally 7y ago
      it looks like it's not natively supported in P3D, but possible with the additional FlyInside [1] software [1] https://flyinside-fsx.com https://flyinside-fsx.com
      - ChicagoBoy11 7y ago
        that is incorrect; it has native VR support in the current version.
    - ChicagoBoy11 7y ago
      Yes, it does in version 4.5, and it is really good.
swarnie_ 7y ago
Maybe challenge scenarios could be included? "Successfully take off in this helicopter in adverse weather/terrain conditions" The "too soon" bit gets to me... maybe that's how some people cope.
- dmurray 7y ago
  Flight Simulator 98 (or 95?) already had these. I remember playing one where a small aircraft had to recover from being flipped upside down from following too closely behind a heavy airliner on a landing approach, with limited fuel available. They weren't associated with particular historic disasters, but these days no doubt you'd be able to create and publish your own.
- g_p 7y ago
  I believe I recall seeing the Gimli Glider scenario in one of the previous versions (Maybe Century of Flight, or FS X?) If the mission/scenario scripting engine is capable enough, there would probably be lots of scope to build famous (and fictional) failure scenarios.

Too soon, my friend

WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago

To be honest, I would pay good money for a simulator that could have scenarios for common Air Disaster episodes.

andrewmunsell 7y ago
FSX had a couple missions with scenarios like this. "Limited Options" (see: https://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=FSX_Default_Missions https://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=FSX_Default...) simulated a dual-engine failure on a 737 over the ocean, which required a glide to one of a couple small islands near the Maldives. Similarly, I enjoyed a mission that required landing a 747 in Singapore during a monsoon. I'm really looking forward to FS2020 and what it'll look like to do the same thing with the graphics enhancements and new weather simulations.
- skeeterbug 7y ago
  I loved both of those missions! The Singapore mission is so satisfying when flying ILS and then coming out of the clouds right in front of the runway.
  - andrewmunsell 7y ago
    I wish ATC/your copilot was as interactive in free flight as it was during the Singapore approach. It made the missions feel much more real when you have some feedback other than text scrolling by in a window.
    - mrguyorama 7y ago
      Many paid and free mods existed to do exactly that. There was even a $20 mod that turned FSX into an airline tycoon game where you purchased aircraft, ran flights, and dealt with emergencies and maintenance of those aircraft
Tepix 7y ago
That's in rather poor taste unless you want to use it to learn how to prevent such catastrophes. You wouldn't need to completely replicate a real scenario for that.
- WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
  Yeah, I bet you if this was available, we could learn more from past accidents.
ChicagoBoy11 7y ago
You're in luck -- that exists today!!!! With the combination of a professional P3D license, weather add-ons, and quality add-on aircraft from companies like PMDG, you really can recreate a lot of those scenarios with exceptional detail. Throw in a high-end VR headset and you can really feel like you are there! Here's an example of me playing around at home ignoring a windshear alert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04FeelpjzvE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04FeelpjzvE
- duncancarroll 7y ago
  Wow, that's pretty cool. Does P3D have native support for VR or are you hacking it in somehow?
  - silicon_wally 7y ago
    it looks like it's not natively supported in P3D, but possible with the additional FlyInside [1] software [1] https://flyinside-fsx.com https://flyinside-fsx.com
    - ChicagoBoy11 7y ago
      that is incorrect; it has native VR support in the current version.
  - ChicagoBoy11 7y ago
    Yes, it does in version 4.5, and it is really good.

swarnie_ 7y ago

Maybe challenge scenarios could be included? "Successfully take off in this helicopter in adverse weather/terrain conditions" The "too soon" bit gets to me... maybe that's how some people cope.

dmurray 7y ago
Flight Simulator 98 (or 95?) already had these. I remember playing one where a small aircraft had to recover from being flipped upside down from following too closely behind a heavy airliner on a landing approach, with limited fuel available. They weren't associated with particular historic disasters, but these days no doubt you'd be able to create and publish your own.
g_p 7y ago
I believe I recall seeing the Gimli Glider scenario in one of the previous versions (Maybe Century of Flight, or FS X?) If the mission/scenario scripting engine is capable enough, there would probably be lots of scope to build famous (and fictional) failure scenarios.