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This entire thread is full of conspiracy, disinformation and outright ignorance. Such a sad state of affairs for this website. If the folks writing these terri
by criley2 7y ago
This entire thread is full of conspiracy, disinformation and outright ignorance.
Such a sad state of affairs for this website. If the folks writing these terrible comments are the same folks working in this industry, perhaps the sorry state of most web software is more understandable.
Since the conspiracy and lies are permeating all but one comment in this thread, here's a short roundup of replies:
* The DNC had nothing to do with the Iowa Caucuses, which are run by the Iowa Democratic Party themselves
* Caucuses have traditionally been pretty rough to manage. I remember when Mitt Romney won Iowa, until it was reported that Ron Paul won Iowa, until we realized it was Rick Santorum who won Iowa. It's not a party thing, it's a state thing.
* Nothing about a 1/2 day delay on reporting results "hurts Bernie", in fact, smart analysis is that it helps him and his narrative based campaign (just look at the comments here!)
* The people who conduct these operations are Iowa democrats, who appear to support Bernie more than anyone. So, the claim of many conspiratorial comments here is that "Bernie supporters are rigging Iowa to hurt Bernie". Disinformation doesn't really make sense when you actually follow the threads and write it out plainly!
- wyxuan 7y agoFinally, someone who acknowledges that the Democratic establishment isn't trying to suppress Bernie and that there were simply technical difficulties. This whole conspiracy narrative builds distrust and helps no one but the Trump campaign.
- vorpalhex 7y agoThis is the time when Democrats are most likely to engage in aggressive infighting, and also the worst possible time for them to do so. Even if you're very spirited in your support for your candidate, it's important to do your best to be accurate and careful in your response to your fellow party members.
- pessimizer 7y agoOddly, you don't have to register as a Democrat to publicly speculate about the Iowa Democratic primary.
- fuqmachine 7y agoWhat if you're an independent caucusing for one Democrat and don't care about the others? There are many on Sanders' side doing just that and it's unfair to tell them that they're bad for being skeptical of the cancellation of the most important poll and delaying the results of an election that would've gave Sanders tremendous media coverage and a bump in the polls
- vorpalhex 7y ago> What if you're an independent caucusing for one Democrat and don't care about the others? You have a poor understanding of the American electoral process and should re-evaluate your stance in it if your goal is to affect change. > ...unfair to tell them that they're bad for being skeptical of the cancellation of the most important poll and delaying the results... I'm not saying they shouldn't be skeptical, I'm saying it is wrong to attack other democrats without evidence and point fingers at other candidates because you're upset that Iowa had a poorly run caucus. I would also caution against assuming the outcome of any poll or caucus, most of all Iowa which is a tremendously difficult caucus to interpret.
- fuqmachine 7y agoI'm only telling you that they exist. 34% of Sanders voters "may not" vote for another blue candidate. 10% voted for Trump. This isn't my opinion. This is just data.
- supernova87a 7y agoI don't think people are commenting on conspiracy. They're commenting on incompetence.