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Or just use Ungoogled Chromium, and get the performance advantage of Chrome without the tracking.

by tapoxi 7y ago

Diederich 7y ago
Is there a quick summary of what major site/features that will be unavailable in Chromium vs. Chrome? I assume, for example, that 'netflix' will be prominently on that list. Thanks.
- deathanatos 7y ago
  I use Chromium; you can still Netflix. It does, however, require installation of "WideVine", which is an opaque, closed, binary blob. (But you're getting that with Chrome, too, I believe.) You can also do Netflix in Firefox, through exactly the same mechanism.
  - gruez 7y ago
    >You can also do Netflix in Firefox, through exactly the same mechanism. It's somewhat better on Firefox because they run the binary blobs in a sandbox.
DangerousPie 7y ago
Is there actually still a performance advantage these days? Would be curious to see some benchmarks. I will say that Gmail/Hangouts feels faster in Chrome but that's obviously not a fair comparison.
- autonomuzw 7y ago
  Yes, there is definitely a performance advantage especially on mobile. see for example some benchmarks for brave browser, and also a couple of recent tests for desktop browsers. [0] https://brave.com/brave-one-dot-zero-performance-methodology-and-results/ https://brave.com/brave-one-dot-zero-performance-methodology... [1] https://brave.com/brave-saves-batteries/ https://brave.com/brave-saves-batteries/ [2] https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/15/browser-benchmark-battle-january-2020-chrome-firefox-edge-brave/view-all/ https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/15/browser-benchmark-battle-... [3] https://linuxreviews.org/Web_Browser_Showdown:_Six_Browsers_On_Four_Computers https://linuxreviews.org/Web_Browser_Showdown:_Six_Browsers_...
  - cdubzzz 7y ago
    The conclusion of the linuxreviews article doesn’t really make a strong case for any major difference between the browsers — It is hard to declare an absolute winner. Brave and Chromium, seem to be the overall winners but Pale Moon, SeaMonkey and Firefox are not bad choices if you never visit pages with fancy WebGL or WebAssembly ever. Chromium may be the best choice if you watch a lot of video on a laptop if your distributions Chromium package has the hardware video acceleration patches. Lots of “ifs” in there for all conclusions.
Dirlewanger 7y ago
Is there definitive proof that all of the Google stuff is really out of a naked Chromium install? I remember reading stuff about it being impossible to wholly untangle Google's stuff from it.
- ColanR 7y ago
  This is my question as well. Additionally, I've wondered if there are non-explicit behaviors of the browser that are used for fingerprinting.
  - prophesi 7y ago
    https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/master/docs/design.md#source-file-processors https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/master/do... "those binaries that cannot be removed do not contain machine code." I'm not sure what's meant by them not containing machine code, but it does seem like some of the binary blobs are retained that can't be built from source or substituted. Honestly, I'd just switch to Firefox to be safe, though Ungoogled-Chromium does automatically set a lot of sane pro-privacy defaults that you'd have to manually change in Chromium/Firefox.

Or just use Ungoogled Chromium, and get the performance advantage of Chrome without the tracking.

by tapoxi 7y ago

Or just use Ungoogled Chromium, and get the performance advantage of Chrome without the tracking.

Is there a quick summary of what major site/features that will be unavailable in Chromium vs. Chrome? I assume, for example, that 'netflix' will be prominently on that list. Thanks.

deathanatos 7y ago
I use Chromium; you can still Netflix. It does, however, require installation of "WideVine", which is an opaque, closed, binary blob. (But you're getting that with Chrome, too, I believe.) You can also do Netflix in Firefox, through exactly the same mechanism.
- gruez 7y ago
  >You can also do Netflix in Firefox, through exactly the same mechanism. It's somewhat better on Firefox because they run the binary blobs in a sandbox.

DangerousPie 7y ago

Is there actually still a performance advantage these days? Would be curious to see some benchmarks. I will say that Gmail/Hangouts feels faster in Chrome but that's obviously not a fair comparison.

autonomuzw 7y ago
Yes, there is definitely a performance advantage especially on mobile. see for example some benchmarks for brave browser, and also a couple of recent tests for desktop browsers. [0] https://brave.com/brave-one-dot-zero-performance-methodology-and-results/ https://brave.com/brave-one-dot-zero-performance-methodology... [1] https://brave.com/brave-saves-batteries/ https://brave.com/brave-saves-batteries/ [2] https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/15/browser-benchmark-battle-january-2020-chrome-firefox-edge-brave/view-all/ https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/15/browser-benchmark-battle-... [3] https://linuxreviews.org/Web_Browser_Showdown:_Six_Browsers_On_Four_Computers https://linuxreviews.org/Web_Browser_Showdown:_Six_Browsers_...
- cdubzzz 7y ago
  The conclusion of the linuxreviews article doesn’t really make a strong case for any major difference between the browsers — It is hard to declare an absolute winner. Brave and Chromium, seem to be the overall winners but Pale Moon, SeaMonkey and Firefox are not bad choices if you never visit pages with fancy WebGL or WebAssembly ever. Chromium may be the best choice if you watch a lot of video on a laptop if your distributions Chromium package has the hardware video acceleration patches. Lots of “ifs” in there for all conclusions.

Dirlewanger 7y ago

Is there definitive proof that all of the Google stuff is really out of a naked Chromium install? I remember reading stuff about it being impossible to wholly untangle Google's stuff from it.

ColanR 7y ago
This is my question as well. Additionally, I've wondered if there are non-explicit behaviors of the browser that are used for fingerprinting.
- prophesi 7y ago
  https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/master/docs/design.md#source-file-processors https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/master/do... "those binaries that cannot be removed do not contain machine code." I'm not sure what's meant by them not containing machine code, but it does seem like some of the binary blobs are retained that can't be built from source or substituted. Honestly, I'd just switch to Firefox to be safe, though Ungoogled-Chromium does automatically set a lot of sane pro-privacy defaults that you'd have to manually change in Chromium/Firefox.