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Which ones? Eich donated like $1000 to a political group that (I would hope) most of us disagree with, but Eich != Mozilla, and he was removed because of the ba

Which ones? Eich donated like $1000 to a political group that (I would hope) most of us disagree with, but Eich != Mozilla, and he was removed because of the backlash

frozenlettuce 7y ago
RiseUp, from their about-us page: https://riseup.net/pl/about-us https://riseup.net/pl/about-us Riseup’s Purpose. The Riseup Collective is an autonomous body based in Seattle with collective members world wide. Our purpose is to aid in the creation of a free society, a world with freedom from want and freedom of expression, a world without oppression or hierarchy, where power is shared equally. We do this by providing communication and computer resources to allies engaged in struggles against capitalism and other forms of oppression >> We do this by providing communication and computer resources to allies engaged in struggles against capitalism and other forms of oppression
- kevlarr 7y ago
  That's... interesting. Does being a "trending project in-network" mean they received money from Mozilla?
  - frozenlettuce 7y ago
    100k to improve security in an email client https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/10/03/mozilla-awards-half-million-open-source-projects/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/10/03/mozilla-awards-half...
arexxbifs 7y ago
I'm a Firefox user but I'm doubtful about donating to the Mozilla Foundation. They at least endorse some really far-out organizations on the Mozilla Foundation homepage[0], such as Riseup Networks. [0] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/?utm_source=www.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=nav&utm_content=about https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/?utm_source=www.mozilla.or...
- kick 7y ago
  Riseup is absolutely with Mozilla's mission statement, though, and all things considered pretty good: "Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications."
  - arexxbifs 7y ago
    They have an actual anarcho-communist star in their logo and their website features revolutionary imagery and policy statements like "all labor is valued equally" and "the means of production should be placed in the hands of the people".[0] I'm sure it's a fine organization if you subscribe to their views. I do not, and I'd rather not fund them, directly or indirectly. [0] https://riseup.net/en/about-us/politics https://riseup.net/en/about-us/politics
    - Matticus_Rex 7y ago
      I don't share their views, but I'm thrilled that their project exists and very happy with Mozilla donating to help improve their email client security, since it's a major player in the pro-privacy ecosystem. If I had to agree with the philosophical beliefs of everyone I gave money to, I'd starve.
      - arexxbifs 7y ago
        If I donate to a FOSS project, I want the money to go into the development of their software and not turn into some proxy funding of other projects and organizations - especially not ones I disagree with. In fact, I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
    - jupp0r 7y ago
      I did not know about riseup (or Mozilla funding them) and parent provided insightful information about them. Given the funding structure of Mozilla, I could see this being a red flag for donations for some organizations/individuals.

Which ones? Eich donated like $1000 to a political group that (I would hope) most of us disagree with, but Eich != Mozilla, and he was removed because of the backlash

frozenlettuce 7y ago

RiseUp, from their about-us page: https://riseup.net/pl/about-us https://riseup.net/pl/about-us Riseup’s Purpose. The Riseup Collective is an autonomous body based in Seattle with collective members world wide. Our purpose is to aid in the creation of a free society, a world with freedom from want and freedom of expression, a world without oppression or hierarchy, where power is shared equally. We do this by providing communication and computer resources to allies engaged in struggles against capitalism and other forms of oppression >> We do this by providing communication and computer resources to allies engaged in struggles against capitalism and other forms of oppression

kevlarr 7y ago
That's... interesting. Does being a "trending project in-network" mean they received money from Mozilla?
- frozenlettuce 7y ago
  100k to improve security in an email client https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/10/03/mozilla-awards-half-million-open-source-projects/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/10/03/mozilla-awards-half...

arexxbifs 7y ago

I'm a Firefox user but I'm doubtful about donating to the Mozilla Foundation. They at least endorse some really far-out organizations on the Mozilla Foundation homepage[0], such as Riseup Networks. [0] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/?utm_source=www.mozilla.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=nav&utm_content=about https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/?utm_source=www.mozilla.or...

kick 7y ago
Riseup is absolutely with Mozilla's mission statement, though, and all things considered pretty good: "Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications."
- arexxbifs 7y ago
  They have an actual anarcho-communist star in their logo and their website features revolutionary imagery and policy statements like "all labor is valued equally" and "the means of production should be placed in the hands of the people".[0] I'm sure it's a fine organization if you subscribe to their views. I do not, and I'd rather not fund them, directly or indirectly. [0] https://riseup.net/en/about-us/politics https://riseup.net/en/about-us/politics
  - Matticus_Rex 7y ago
    I don't share their views, but I'm thrilled that their project exists and very happy with Mozilla donating to help improve their email client security, since it's a major player in the pro-privacy ecosystem. If I had to agree with the philosophical beliefs of everyone I gave money to, I'd starve.
    - arexxbifs 7y ago
      If I donate to a FOSS project, I want the money to go into the development of their software and not turn into some proxy funding of other projects and organizations - especially not ones I disagree with. In fact, I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
  - jupp0r 7y ago
    I did not know about riseup (or Mozilla funding them) and parent provided insightful information about them. Given the funding structure of Mozilla, I could see this being a red flag for donations for some organizations/individuals.