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More and more people are blocking ads. Google’s business model is under threat. They will turn into hyenas in order to survive.

eitland 7y ago
Good point. Although I feel their hyena nature has been visible for a while now and what we are now seeing is hungry hyena :-)
- throwawa66 7y ago
  Oh it will get worse. Youtube will be riddled with ads every 5 minutes or so. Will take the cable tv path soon. The good news is that their greed will eventually crash themselves. Hey, i dont mind a little ad here and there even though I give 0 fucks about any product being advertised. But the quantity is becoming hard to process without adblockers. Had they not taken the full evil mode path I’d have considered paying for youtube. I think im better of weaning myself off almost completely. Or alternatives...
kmlx 7y ago
i think their business model is just fine: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-q4-2019-earnings/amp/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alp...
- falcolas 7y ago
  There's a certain irony of linking to an amp site on Google's domain as part of a larger discussion about their business ethics.
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  - lern_too_spel 7y ago
    Is this better? https://search.yahoo.co.jp/amp/s/9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-q4-2019-earnings/amp/%3Fusqp%3Dmq331AQNKAGYAYXm5PK-1cabUQ%253D%253D https://search.yahoo.co.jp/amp/s/9to5google.com/2020/02/03/a...
    - falcolas 7y ago
      How about just https://9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-q4-2019-earnings/ https://9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-q4-2019-earnings/ ? No amp required, under 1 second to display content. I will say that it's a bit beefy at 5mb total, though the AMP site loads the same amount.
      - lern_too_spel 7y ago
        You complained that it was hosted on Google specifically. I tested that Chrome specifically copies the canonical URL and not the location bar URL when I share that AMP page, which doesn't fit your narrative. Also, the reason the AMP page is faster is that it prerenders above the fold from a SERP, not due to total page weight.
        falcolas 7y ago
        AMP is, hosting aside, a problematic project when it comes to Google's business ethics. And the differences in rendering speed were negligible, to my eyes. IIRC from the dev tools, it was about 1/10th of a second difference to get readable content.
        throwawa66 7y ago
        AMP is basically gobbling up other contributor’s content and shamelessly profits at the expense of the content owner. As an end user I also don’t like amp. Im on duckduckgo now
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        > And the differences in rendering speed were negligible, to my eyes Reread my previous post. You didn't load it from a SERP. That's what AMP is useful for, instant loading from link aggregators. > AMP is, hosting aside, a problematic project when it comes to Google's business ethics. How, especially considering that Google's browser does not share AMP URLs? Is RSS a problematic project? How about GTFS or microdata? All three give the user a better experience at the expense of the publisher.

eitland 7y ago

Good point. Although I feel their hyena nature has been visible for a while now and what we are now seeing is hungry hyena :-)

throwawa66 7y ago
Oh it will get worse. Youtube will be riddled with ads every 5 minutes or so. Will take the cable tv path soon. The good news is that their greed will eventually crash themselves. Hey, i dont mind a little ad here and there even though I give 0 fucks about any product being advertised. But the quantity is becoming hard to process without adblockers. Had they not taken the full evil mode path I’d have considered paying for youtube. I think im better of weaning myself off almost completely. Or alternatives...

kmlx 7y ago

i think their business model is just fine: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-q4-2019-earnings/amp/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alp...

falcolas 7y ago
There's a certain irony of linking to an amp site on Google's domain as part of a larger discussion about their business ethics.
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- lern_too_spel 7y ago
  Is this better? https://search.yahoo.co.jp/amp/s/9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-q4-2019-earnings/amp/%3Fusqp%3Dmq331AQNKAGYAYXm5PK-1cabUQ%253D%253D https://search.yahoo.co.jp/amp/s/9to5google.com/2020/02/03/a...
  - falcolas 7y ago
    How about just https://9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-q4-2019-earnings/ https://9to5google.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-q4-2019-earnings/ ? No amp required, under 1 second to display content. I will say that it's a bit beefy at 5mb total, though the AMP site loads the same amount.
    - lern_too_spel 7y ago
      You complained that it was hosted on Google specifically. I tested that Chrome specifically copies the canonical URL and not the location bar URL when I share that AMP page, which doesn't fit your narrative. Also, the reason the AMP page is faster is that it prerenders above the fold from a SERP, not due to total page weight.
      - falcolas 7y ago
        AMP is, hosting aside, a problematic project when it comes to Google's business ethics. And the differences in rendering speed were negligible, to my eyes. IIRC from the dev tools, it was about 1/10th of a second difference to get readable content.
        throwawa66 7y ago
        AMP is basically gobbling up other contributor’s content and shamelessly profits at the expense of the content owner. As an end user I also don’t like amp. Im on duckduckgo now
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        > And the differences in rendering speed were negligible, to my eyes Reread my previous post. You didn't load it from a SERP. That's what AMP is useful for, instant loading from link aggregators. > AMP is, hosting aside, a problematic project when it comes to Google's business ethics. How, especially considering that Google's browser does not share AMP URLs? Is RSS a problematic project? How about GTFS or microdata? All three give the user a better experience at the expense of the publisher.