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This is great but why is it so difficult for AMD to break into the enterprise/server side of the market? Seems Intel is very entrenched in that space despite th

This is great but why is it so difficult for AMD to break into the enterprise/server side of the market? Seems Intel is very entrenched in that space despite their clear exercise of market power for over a decade.

pixl97 7y ago
Between Intel manipulating the server OEMs, and relatively poor lights out management, who could guess?
- wilhil 7y ago
  I said before - it's more than just this. AMD's ecosystem just sucks... Intel may be doing things that are questionable, but, as a OEM on the much smaller size, Intel have a great partner program. With Intel, I get advanced warranties, presales support, next day parts, details marketing and product information alongside access to privileged information and roadmaps. With AMD, I was waiting the best part of 3 months for a call back, and their "partner" site which is open to the world is severely out of date and doesn't even have all products listed. Intel is frictionless when it comes to doing business, AMD put up roadblocks.
  - bitxbit 7y ago
    This is my understanding as well. And why I believe AMD needs to either merge or be acquired to really make a run at CPU/GPU market. They’re seriously underperforming (this isn’t to say Lisa Su is a bad CEO).
posix_me_less 7y ago
For big companies, migration to AMD is a risky move. Old applications work well on Intel and Intel has been reliable for years. Big corps love boring tech. Now that Intel offering sucks, they do notice but they are not jumping all the the same time. Will the old applications work well on the new AMD tech? What if there is an incompatibility/HW bug on AMD platform which makes critical applications fail? It takes years for the big companies to get interested in such a big of a platform switch. For now, they've been sticking with Intel and observing how the situation develops. If Intel keeps screwing up, which they do, eventually the big migration will happen.

pixl97 7y ago

Between Intel manipulating the server OEMs, and relatively poor lights out management, who could guess?

wilhil 7y ago
I said before - it's more than just this. AMD's ecosystem just sucks... Intel may be doing things that are questionable, but, as a OEM on the much smaller size, Intel have a great partner program. With Intel, I get advanced warranties, presales support, next day parts, details marketing and product information alongside access to privileged information and roadmaps. With AMD, I was waiting the best part of 3 months for a call back, and their "partner" site which is open to the world is severely out of date and doesn't even have all products listed. Intel is frictionless when it comes to doing business, AMD put up roadblocks.
- bitxbit 7y ago
  This is my understanding as well. And why I believe AMD needs to either merge or be acquired to really make a run at CPU/GPU market. They’re seriously underperforming (this isn’t to say Lisa Su is a bad CEO).

posix_me_less 7y ago

For big companies, migration to AMD is a risky move. Old applications work well on Intel and Intel has been reliable for years. Big corps love boring tech. Now that Intel offering sucks, they do notice but they are not jumping all the the same time. Will the old applications work well on the new AMD tech? What if there is an incompatibility/HW bug on AMD platform which makes critical applications fail? It takes years for the big companies to get interested in such a big of a platform switch. For now, they've been sticking with Intel and observing how the situation develops. If Intel keeps screwing up, which they do, eventually the big migration will happen.