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The stock coolers on Ryzen processors are really really good compared to Intel stock coolers. Maybe not so great for a 3900x, but they'll even support light ove

The stock coolers on Ryzen processors are really really good compared to Intel stock coolers. Maybe not so great for a 3900x, but they'll even support light overclocking on most of the other Ryzen options.

sundvor 7y ago
The AMD 7nm TDP might have something to do with that. :)
- jagger27 7y ago
  No one will argue with that, but my 2700X ran fine under the stock Wraith cooler until I decided I wanted to overclock.
mrguyorama 7y ago
I was under this assumption, but I bought a 3600 which comes with the "Wraith Stealth" or similar. The cooler is nearly identical to Intel's crap stock coolers and can't keep up with the CPU under load (as in, at all) and with the fan at 50% at near idle, the CPU runs 40 degrees C
- Macha 7y ago
  The reputation originally came from the original Wraith (now Wraith Spire) that you get with the 3600x (the main value add for the X model), the 3700x and 3800x. The Wraith Prism was also apparently pretty good in its first outing on the 2700x, but apparently the 3900x/3950x are a bit much for it to handle gracefully.
- garaetjjte 7y ago
  >can't keep up with the CPU under load (as in, at all) I think this is exaggeration. I have 3600 with stock cooler and at full load clocks doesn't seem to fall below 3.8GHz, 86°C (well, I tested on linux make -j12, maybe on some AVX loads it is worse).
  - mrguyorama 7y ago
    Playing rainbow six siege would push the temp to 92 degrees within a minute of 3d rendering. It still is running at about 3.7-3.8ghz, but I don't want it to be that hot. IIRC, running cpu-z stress test also mostly just hit under 90 degrees. It also idles at 40 degrees, despite my apartment being 65 degrees F. Funnily enough, siege has recently released a vulkan based build that runs at a cool 74 degrees. The wraith stealth is just an incredibly anemic and disappointing heat sink. It's "functional"but only at average loads. This is in comparison to the previous generation's cooler for the midrange CPUs that was about twice as large. It's not a deal breaker, my 3600 is still miles above anything I've ever run previously, and it isn't dying under the heat, but it might just run one year less than it was initially designed for at those temperatures

sundvor 7y ago

The AMD 7nm TDP might have something to do with that. :)

jagger27 7y ago
No one will argue with that, but my 2700X ran fine under the stock Wraith cooler until I decided I wanted to overclock.

mrguyorama 7y ago

I was under this assumption, but I bought a 3600 which comes with the "Wraith Stealth" or similar. The cooler is nearly identical to Intel's crap stock coolers and can't keep up with the CPU under load (as in, at all) and with the fan at 50% at near idle, the CPU runs 40 degrees C

Macha 7y ago
The reputation originally came from the original Wraith (now Wraith Spire) that you get with the 3600x (the main value add for the X model), the 3700x and 3800x. The Wraith Prism was also apparently pretty good in its first outing on the 2700x, but apparently the 3900x/3950x are a bit much for it to handle gracefully.
garaetjjte 7y ago
>can't keep up with the CPU under load (as in, at all) I think this is exaggeration. I have 3600 with stock cooler and at full load clocks doesn't seem to fall below 3.8GHz, 86°C (well, I tested on linux make -j12, maybe on some AVX loads it is worse).
- mrguyorama 7y ago
  Playing rainbow six siege would push the temp to 92 degrees within a minute of 3d rendering. It still is running at about 3.7-3.8ghz, but I don't want it to be that hot. IIRC, running cpu-z stress test also mostly just hit under 90 degrees. It also idles at 40 degrees, despite my apartment being 65 degrees F. Funnily enough, siege has recently released a vulkan based build that runs at a cool 74 degrees. The wraith stealth is just an incredibly anemic and disappointing heat sink. It's "functional"but only at average loads. This is in comparison to the previous generation's cooler for the midrange CPUs that was about twice as large. It's not a deal breaker, my 3600 is still miles above anything I've ever run previously, and it isn't dying under the heat, but it might just run one year less than it was initially designed for at those temperatures