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> I guess this is your tip now. You deserve it! Found the American. Just as a heads up. We don't tip the cleaner. Or anyone else. And while Finland doesn't hav

> I guess this is your tip now. You deserve it! Found the American. Just as a heads up. We don't tip the cleaner. Or anyone else. And while Finland doesn't have minimum wage, collective agreements specify minimum pay rates so the cleaner will always be paid a liveable wage.

versale 7y ago
Actually I was offered to give a tip at "O'Leary's" in the IsoOmena mall (Espoo) when paying the bill with my Visa Electron. It felt awkward and I've been avoiding the place since then.
- Symbiote 7y ago
  Were you speaking English? In Denmark, I'm much more likely to have the card payment machine prompt for a tip if the waiter thinks the group is foreign. Otherwise, they often press "Nej" themselves.
  - PappaPatat 7y ago
    Swiss here: can relate. Specifically American tourists get confused if there is no tip possibility offered with carding machines.
    - lukeqsee 7y ago
      As an American moving to Switzerland, I knew tipping was uncommon, so initially, I didn’t. Now I’ve settled on the “round up” method to save everyone counting coins (round up to the next nice number, so no more than 2-5CHF). Am I doing it wrong?
      - loopz 7y ago
        No. Tipping is not a source of income in most of Europe. More places are even distributing the money or it may go to owner.
      - PappaPatat 7y ago
        You are doing it exactly right. Exceptions are when you spend a long time and things (service, ambiance, whatever) stand out to you and your party: then feel welcome to tip whatever you like. But an important observation is that here money is respected. 0,10 0,50 1,00 it is all treated with respect. This is why "overtipping" is frowned upon.
  - versale 7y ago
    Yes, my Finnish is practically non-existent. That might explain though :)
- vhakulinen 7y ago
  More and more places are "offering to give a tip" at least in Helsinki when paying by card. The machine asks if you want to give some or not. Its... weird.
  - C1sc0cat 7y ago
    It is I almost always tip in cash, a lot of restaurants do sketchy stuff with tips given via card payments - I suspect Finland and the Nordics might be better though.
  - maeln 7y ago
    This as been happening in France also. We were also never giving tips before because there is a minimum wage but now, almost every bar & restaurant do it. I wonder if it is not some form of US cultural influence. We see people tipping in series, films and such and start to do it to.
    - fit2rule 7y ago
      The credit card machines are probably set up to prompt the waiter for a tip. This is a common feature on POS systems, regardless of whether its sold in USA or Turkey.
      - Symbiote 7y ago
        Naturally all the machines support it, but it's up to the owner of the business whether to enable that feature or not.
        fit2rule 7y ago
        Many don't even bother to turn the feature off ..
  - Hamuko 7y ago
    It's another case of importing American things you see on the TV every day. Same is happening with Halloween now.
emilfihlman 7y ago
We don't tip the cleaner. But if somebody finds money and nobody accepts it, "that's your tip now" is not un-Finnish at all.

versale 7y ago

Actually I was offered to give a tip at "O'Leary's" in the IsoOmena mall (Espoo) when paying the bill with my Visa Electron. It felt awkward and I've been avoiding the place since then.

Symbiote 7y ago
Were you speaking English? In Denmark, I'm much more likely to have the card payment machine prompt for a tip if the waiter thinks the group is foreign. Otherwise, they often press "Nej" themselves.
- PappaPatat 7y ago
  Swiss here: can relate. Specifically American tourists get confused if there is no tip possibility offered with carding machines.
  - lukeqsee 7y ago
    As an American moving to Switzerland, I knew tipping was uncommon, so initially, I didn’t. Now I’ve settled on the “round up” method to save everyone counting coins (round up to the next nice number, so no more than 2-5CHF). Am I doing it wrong?
    - loopz 7y ago
      No. Tipping is not a source of income in most of Europe. More places are even distributing the money or it may go to owner.
    - PappaPatat 7y ago
      You are doing it exactly right. Exceptions are when you spend a long time and things (service, ambiance, whatever) stand out to you and your party: then feel welcome to tip whatever you like. But an important observation is that here money is respected. 0,10 0,50 1,00 it is all treated with respect. This is why "overtipping" is frowned upon.
- versale 7y ago
  Yes, my Finnish is practically non-existent. That might explain though :)
vhakulinen 7y ago
More and more places are "offering to give a tip" at least in Helsinki when paying by card. The machine asks if you want to give some or not. Its... weird.
- C1sc0cat 7y ago
  It is I almost always tip in cash, a lot of restaurants do sketchy stuff with tips given via card payments - I suspect Finland and the Nordics might be better though.
- maeln 7y ago
  This as been happening in France also. We were also never giving tips before because there is a minimum wage but now, almost every bar & restaurant do it. I wonder if it is not some form of US cultural influence. We see people tipping in series, films and such and start to do it to.
  - fit2rule 7y ago
    The credit card machines are probably set up to prompt the waiter for a tip. This is a common feature on POS systems, regardless of whether its sold in USA or Turkey.
    - Symbiote 7y ago
      Naturally all the machines support it, but it's up to the owner of the business whether to enable that feature or not.
      - fit2rule 7y ago
        Many don't even bother to turn the feature off ..
- Hamuko 7y ago
  It's another case of importing American things you see on the TV every day. Same is happening with Halloween now.

emilfihlman 7y ago

We don't tip the cleaner. But if somebody finds money and nobody accepts it, "that's your tip now" is not un-Finnish at all.