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Companies that are nowhere near as successful as those in the US, developer salaries that are nowhere near those in the US. I don't think I get it.

amatecha 7y ago
Those wildly successful US companies have Canadian offices too, usually ;)
- jbay808 7y ago
  For some reason, they generally seem to have a policy of paying significantly less for the same role in their Canadian office.
  - rhexs 7y ago
    Once Canada starts developing those trillion dollar home brew companies that deliver a product most of the world uses at a high margin, I’m sure Canadian salaries will go up to match.
    - jbay808 7y ago
      Was this comment intended as sarcasm? I'm finding it hard to read the intention. Anyway, I'm not so sure that's relevant. If Amazon or Microsoft pay less for the same role and skill level in their Vancouver office than their Seattle office, why wouldn't a Canadian company do the same? I don't think the pay differential is due to patriotism by upper management, so I'm not sure it has to do with where the company was founded. In some cases proximity to the head office may be seen as worth extra pay, but that isn't always the case either. The reasoning seems to be "we pay less in Canada because we can", and Canadian companies like Shopify or (in the past) RIM play the same way.
HenryKissinger 7y ago
Not every developer is able, or willing to try, to get a job in the US.
cheese4242 7y ago
There is a faction of oligarchs in this country who want to saturate the labor market for their own benefit. This is merely propaganda on their behalf.
- conanbatt 7y ago
  Are the oligarchs the software engineers in this scenario?
conanbatt 7y ago
You could drop developer salaries probably 50% without the artificial barrier of immigration restrictions. There are literally millions of developers in the world making 1/4 of what the US pays, but are legally unable to compete for the same positions.

amatecha 7y ago

Those wildly successful US companies have Canadian offices too, usually ;)

jbay808 7y ago
For some reason, they generally seem to have a policy of paying significantly less for the same role in their Canadian office.
- rhexs 7y ago
  Once Canada starts developing those trillion dollar home brew companies that deliver a product most of the world uses at a high margin, I’m sure Canadian salaries will go up to match.
  - jbay808 7y ago
    Was this comment intended as sarcasm? I'm finding it hard to read the intention. Anyway, I'm not so sure that's relevant. If Amazon or Microsoft pay less for the same role and skill level in their Vancouver office than their Seattle office, why wouldn't a Canadian company do the same? I don't think the pay differential is due to patriotism by upper management, so I'm not sure it has to do with where the company was founded. In some cases proximity to the head office may be seen as worth extra pay, but that isn't always the case either. The reasoning seems to be "we pay less in Canada because we can", and Canadian companies like Shopify or (in the past) RIM play the same way.

HenryKissinger 7y ago

Not every developer is able, or willing to try, to get a job in the US.

cheese4242 7y ago

There is a faction of oligarchs in this country who want to saturate the labor market for their own benefit. This is merely propaganda on their behalf.

conanbatt 7y ago
Are the oligarchs the software engineers in this scenario?

conanbatt 7y ago

You could drop developer salaries probably 50% without the artificial barrier of immigration restrictions. There are literally millions of developers in the world making 1/4 of what the US pays, but are legally unable to compete for the same positions.