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Canada gets immigrants from developing countries; immigrants take advantage of the excellent education and healthcare system, after a few years get a citizenshi

Canada gets immigrants from developing countries; immigrants take advantage of the excellent education and healthcare system, after a few years get a citizenship, a TN visa, then move to US for a better salary and a lower rent. USA gets the cream of the crop from Canada and wins. Canada loses.

rewq4321 7y ago
If they're Canadian citizens, then aren't they still getting taxed? If by "Canada loses", you mean that they lose entrepreneurs, then it seems like (from what the startup scene people were saying in that article) the opposite is actually occurring. Also, if your hypothesis were true, you probably wouldn't see an influx of big companies (e.g. Google, Microsoft, Intel, Uber, etc.) opening shop in Canada - the companies are obviously moving to the people in this case. Seems fairly obvious to me (as an Australian looking at options for permanent residence in the US) that the US has sabotaged its brain draining ability in the last few years.
- frequentnapper 7y ago
  You can be a non resident Canadian and only pay US taxes
- CalRobert 7y ago
  Taxation is based on residency, not citizenship, for all nations bar Eritrea and the US.
- frequentnapper 7y ago
  I'm a Canadian naturalized citizen. I am currently in Japan. In the last few years since obtaining PR became a piece of cake, I have seen Indians and Chinese coming here for a masters in a technical field (which are now a joke to get into and graduate from as long as you can pay tuition), obtain a PR in less than year after graduation, 3 years after that a citizenship, apply for TN visa and get a job in US easily. Why? Because it's very easy to do so and rent/property prices in Vancouver/Toronto have skyrocketed but tech salaries are nothing compared to what you can make in US in USD. Also taxes, cost of living, etc. in select states in US (texas for example) are much lower. Even in seattle, etc. you pay higher rent, but your salary more than makes up for it. Canadian policy basically makes sure that we lose the brightest to US .
shard972 7y ago
This is how globalism works, if you get caught up in a net loss for one country than you fail to see how everyone is benefiting.
thbr99 7y ago
You are absolutely right. Salaries in Canada are pathetic. Anecdotally, I know many who did this TN visa to go back to US. US still wins despite the broken immigration system.
- commandlinefan 7y ago
  > broken immigration system It’s really not, though - the point is to only allow people who literally can’t be found anywhere else to migrate. They’re looking for one in a million, not just anybody with a decent education who’s interested in living here. The immigration policy was broken for decades and is just now being fixed. We should expect to see lower, but better, immigration.

rewq4321 7y ago

If they're Canadian citizens, then aren't they still getting taxed? If by "Canada loses", you mean that they lose entrepreneurs, then it seems like (from what the startup scene people were saying in that article) the opposite is actually occurring. Also, if your hypothesis were true, you probably wouldn't see an influx of big companies (e.g. Google, Microsoft, Intel, Uber, etc.) opening shop in Canada - the companies are obviously moving to the people in this case. Seems fairly obvious to me (as an Australian looking at options for permanent residence in the US) that the US has sabotaged its brain draining ability in the last few years.

frequentnapper 7y ago
You can be a non resident Canadian and only pay US taxes
CalRobert 7y ago
Taxation is based on residency, not citizenship, for all nations bar Eritrea and the US.
frequentnapper 7y ago
I'm a Canadian naturalized citizen. I am currently in Japan. In the last few years since obtaining PR became a piece of cake, I have seen Indians and Chinese coming here for a masters in a technical field (which are now a joke to get into and graduate from as long as you can pay tuition), obtain a PR in less than year after graduation, 3 years after that a citizenship, apply for TN visa and get a job in US easily. Why? Because it's very easy to do so and rent/property prices in Vancouver/Toronto have skyrocketed but tech salaries are nothing compared to what you can make in US in USD. Also taxes, cost of living, etc. in select states in US (texas for example) are much lower. Even in seattle, etc. you pay higher rent, but your salary more than makes up for it. Canadian policy basically makes sure that we lose the brightest to US .

shard972 7y ago

This is how globalism works, if you get caught up in a net loss for one country than you fail to see how everyone is benefiting.

thbr99 7y ago

You are absolutely right. Salaries in Canada are pathetic. Anecdotally, I know many who did this TN visa to go back to US. US still wins despite the broken immigration system.

commandlinefan 7y ago
> broken immigration system It’s really not, though - the point is to only allow people who literally can’t be found anywhere else to migrate. They’re looking for one in a million, not just anybody with a decent education who’s interested in living here. The immigration policy was broken for decades and is just now being fixed. We should expect to see lower, but better, immigration.