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That's up to them, and the market. It is not their fault those industries pay more.

by matchbok 7y ago

tempsy 7y ago
No one is saying it isn’t. It’s just a critique. Calm down.
- matchbok 7y ago
  I'm pretty calm, actually, thanks. Seems like you are the one who needs to calm down by assuming as such.
_jal 7y ago
So which is it - not Pete's fault, or something to be proud of? For the record, I grew up very poor. Lower-middle class was an unattainable aspiration for my parents. I'm doing very well for myself, and have never compromised my morals to do so. I turned down good paying jobs when it hurt to do so because the work was slimy. You don't have to sell yourself out to make money. If you do, that's a choice. (To be clear, I'm not saying Mayo Pete is a sell out - I don't really care enough to look, but from what I've seen he seems like a true believer in the notion that his job is to tell the proles why they can't have nice things while cutting deals in wine caves. It is easy to understand why the Democrats produce so many of these people; what is inexplicable to me is why anyone except Republicans like them.)
- remarkEon 7y ago
  >...what is inexplicable to me is why anyone except Republicans like them Might be my own bubble, or perhaps things are changing, but I haven't met a Republican that likes these people. They are usual quite hostile to them.
  - _jal 7y ago
    Because they cause internecine conflict on the other side, not as someone to vote for.
- manigandham 7y ago
  > "You don't have to sell yourself out to make money. If you do, that's a choice." You'll find that the many people today (like the author) will consider you to be very privileged for having the opportunity to do so.
remarkEon 7y ago
Okay, then perhaps it's our fault that those industries pay more. There might be policy options that could change this. "Let the market decide" is unfortunately, at least in my view, becoming an almost religious creed.

That's up to them, and the market. It is not their fault those industries pay more.

tempsy 7y ago

No one is saying it isn’t. It’s just a critique. Calm down.

matchbok 7y ago
I'm pretty calm, actually, thanks. Seems like you are the one who needs to calm down by assuming as such.

_jal 7y ago

So which is it - not Pete's fault, or something to be proud of? For the record, I grew up very poor. Lower-middle class was an unattainable aspiration for my parents. I'm doing very well for myself, and have never compromised my morals to do so. I turned down good paying jobs when it hurt to do so because the work was slimy. You don't have to sell yourself out to make money. If you do, that's a choice. (To be clear, I'm not saying Mayo Pete is a sell out - I don't really care enough to look, but from what I've seen he seems like a true believer in the notion that his job is to tell the proles why they can't have nice things while cutting deals in wine caves. It is easy to understand why the Democrats produce so many of these people; what is inexplicable to me is why anyone except Republicans like them.)

remarkEon 7y ago
>...what is inexplicable to me is why anyone except Republicans like them Might be my own bubble, or perhaps things are changing, but I haven't met a Republican that likes these people. They are usual quite hostile to them.
- _jal 7y ago
  Because they cause internecine conflict on the other side, not as someone to vote for.
manigandham 7y ago
> "You don't have to sell yourself out to make money. If you do, that's a choice." You'll find that the many people today (like the author) will consider you to be very privileged for having the opportunity to do so.

remarkEon 7y ago

Okay, then perhaps it's our fault that those industries pay more. There might be policy options that could change this. "Let the market decide" is unfortunately, at least in my view, becoming an almost religious creed.