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Isn’t it enough if it recognises the limits of its own capability and safely asks you to take over?

twic 7y ago
I can't drive, so no, not really.
rad_gruchalski 7y ago
No, actually it is not. It basically throws the operator into the worst possible conditions. Remember that the whole point of self driving cars is to eliminate the human driver. A driver who doesn’t drive is not capable of taking over from a machine which just gave up on recognizing what’s happening due to the severe weather. An example from my own backyard. My car is equipped only with ACC and lane assist. I already had a couple of situations where in severe rain the sensors are no longer able to „see”. The car throws a fit and I have to take over immediately. These things are not fit for purpose. They are not able to judge „a big surface covered with water, risk of aquaplaning” or „surface covered with snow, temp dropping, possibility of black ice” or even simple mud / sand. Maybe if one lives in Nevada, Arizona, California, where it’s always sunny, rains once in ten years, one can get swayed into believing that these things work. However, rsin, dnow, black ice or a mix of those and it becomes very quickly obvious it does not. These cars, today, they are just dumb machnines without judgement. Never I am going to sit in an autonomous car outside of a controlled environment like an airport / strict city centre. Outside of the city, no way.
- tensor 7y ago
  Computers have already been judging the conditions you cite better than humans for a long time. Your car is equipped with anti-slip systems that do a far better job both controlling the car in bad conditions and recognizing those conditions than you can. Frankly, I'd trust a computer over the average human any day, given the horrible judgement I've seen most people exercise on the roads.
  - rad_gruchalski 7y ago
    > Computers have already been judging the conditions you cite better than humans for a long time. Your car is equipped with anti-slip systems that do a far better job both controlling the car in bad conditions and recognizing those conditions than you can. Only when they find themselves right on that surface. They’re not able to predict this before the situation occurs.

twic 7y ago

I can't drive, so no, not really.

No, actually it is not. It basically throws the operator into the worst possible conditions. Remember that the whole point of self driving cars is to eliminate the human driver. A driver who doesn’t drive is not capable of taking over from a machine which just gave up on recognizing what’s happening due to the severe weather. An example from my own backyard. My car is equipped only with ACC and lane assist. I already had a couple of situations where in severe rain the sensors are no longer able to „see”. The car throws a fit and I have to take over immediately. These things are not fit for purpose. They are not able to judge „a big surface covered with water, risk of aquaplaning” or „surface covered with snow, temp dropping, possibility of black ice” or even simple mud / sand. Maybe if one lives in Nevada, Arizona, California, where it’s always sunny, rains once in ten years, one can get swayed into believing that these things work. However, rsin, dnow, black ice or a mix of those and it becomes very quickly obvious it does not. These cars, today, they are just dumb machnines without judgement. Never I am going to sit in an autonomous car outside of a controlled environment like an airport / strict city centre. Outside of the city, no way.

tensor 7y ago
Computers have already been judging the conditions you cite better than humans for a long time. Your car is equipped with anti-slip systems that do a far better job both controlling the car in bad conditions and recognizing those conditions than you can. Frankly, I'd trust a computer over the average human any day, given the horrible judgement I've seen most people exercise on the roads.
- rad_gruchalski 7y ago
  > Computers have already been judging the conditions you cite better than humans for a long time. Your car is equipped with anti-slip systems that do a far better job both controlling the car in bad conditions and recognizing those conditions than you can. Only when they find themselves right on that surface. They’re not able to predict this before the situation occurs.