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For lack of a better descriptor: behavioral traits one might identify as autism. The person who for some reason is up on a Saturday night reading the NGINX sou

by tmpz22 7y ago

For lack of a better descriptor: behavioral traits one might identify as autism. The person who for some reason is up on a Saturday night reading the NGINX source code in C to better implement their company's Lets Encrypt integration. The person who actually stepped through Kelsey Hightower's Kubernetes the Hard way just because they thought Kubernetes was really cool. The person who writes code for personal projects during "social hours" where others may be out with friends, out with their significant others, etc. EDIT: I'll leave it for the integrity/honesty of the comment, but here are some descriptors I wish I'd used in the first place instead of 'autism': * On the spectrum * Extreme Introvert * Socially disconnected * Ties self-value to work-output in extreme ways * Seeks joy from work versus social interaction & status

hobofan 7y ago
> For lack of a better descriptor: behavioral traits one might identify as autism. I wouldn't identify any of your examples as signs for someone being on the autistic spectrum.
RookyNumbas 7y ago
Heh, you do need a better descriptor. That is the media's idea of the autistic savant. A very small minority of people on the lesser end of the autism spectrum may have some of those traits. The reality for the other 99% is vastly different.
- skissane 7y ago
  What about individuals with broad autism phenotype (BAP)? What the GP said probably does describe quite a few BAP individuals. (And the boundary between BAP and ASD is rather ill-defined and subjective anyway.)
apalmer 7y ago
none of these have anything to do with autism...
skissane 7y ago
I don't think people should be so hard on you for your terminology choice. The term "autism" is overly broad. One might be talking about: (1) Classical autism (2) Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) (3) Broader autism phenotype (BAP) If people were to understand you as talking about (3), well I don't think you said anything inaccurate. You obviously weren't talking about most individuals included under (1). As far as (2) goes, well at one end (2) includes (1), and at the other end (2) has a very vague boundary with (3).
outworlder 7y ago
> that one might identify as Everyone seems to be missing this. It doesn't have to be in the DSM criteria, the parent poster is talking about the popular view. I don't necessarily agree – I don't seek joy from work but I do things that others (my wife included) would consider as "work". The moment you tackle that label on them – or whenever I lose control of what I'm supposed to be doing – I'll no longer have the same joy. > The person who for some reason is up on a Saturday night reading the NGINX source code in C Sigh Now this I have issue with. I think the best programmers I know will do something like this out of their own self interest. Maybe they are setting up some elaborate and over-engineered system for their own amusement. If this is for work, though? You bet your ass I'll be reading that NGINX source code, if I have to, during work hours, however loosely defined those are. There are exceptions, of course. Sometimes your mind will be so focused on something that it _just won't let go_. In which case, fine, Monday can't wait and I'll try this thing. As long as there is no expectations from the part of the company. Saturday night I'll be mucking around with 3d printing, game engines, programming my own blog software for the 30th time in a new Scheme dialect, anything. Just not work.
- heavenlyblue 7y ago
  I agree with you, but I think there’s an even more important point: spending your Saturday integrating nginx with certbot is quite frankly, an easy task - technically speaking. This is not even learning - this is your routine work task.

by tmpz22 7y ago

hobofan 7y ago

> For lack of a better descriptor: behavioral traits one might identify as autism. I wouldn't identify any of your examples as signs for someone being on the autistic spectrum.

RookyNumbas 7y ago

Heh, you do need a better descriptor. That is the media's idea of the autistic savant. A very small minority of people on the lesser end of the autism spectrum may have some of those traits. The reality for the other 99% is vastly different.

skissane 7y ago
What about individuals with broad autism phenotype (BAP)? What the GP said probably does describe quite a few BAP individuals. (And the boundary between BAP and ASD is rather ill-defined and subjective anyway.)

apalmer 7y ago

none of these have anything to do with autism...

skissane 7y ago

I don't think people should be so hard on you for your terminology choice. The term "autism" is overly broad. One might be talking about: (1) Classical autism (2) Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) (3) Broader autism phenotype (BAP) If people were to understand you as talking about (3), well I don't think you said anything inaccurate. You obviously weren't talking about most individuals included under (1). As far as (2) goes, well at one end (2) includes (1), and at the other end (2) has a very vague boundary with (3).

outworlder 7y ago

> that one might identify as Everyone seems to be missing this. It doesn't have to be in the DSM criteria, the parent poster is talking about the popular view. I don't necessarily agree – I don't seek joy from work but I do things that others (my wife included) would consider as "work". The moment you tackle that label on them – or whenever I lose control of what I'm supposed to be doing – I'll no longer have the same joy. > The person who for some reason is up on a Saturday night reading the NGINX source code in C Sigh Now this I have issue with. I think the best programmers I know will do something like this out of their own self interest. Maybe they are setting up some elaborate and over-engineered system for their own amusement. If this is for work, though? You bet your ass I'll be reading that NGINX source code, if I have to, during work hours, however loosely defined those are. There are exceptions, of course. Sometimes your mind will be so focused on something that it _just won't let go_. In which case, fine, Monday can't wait and I'll try this thing. As long as there is no expectations from the part of the company. Saturday night I'll be mucking around with 3d printing, game engines, programming my own blog software for the 30th time in a new Scheme dialect, anything. Just not work.

heavenlyblue 7y ago
I agree with you, but I think there’s an even more important point: spending your Saturday integrating nginx with certbot is quite frankly, an easy task - technically speaking. This is not even learning - this is your routine work task.